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  1. #1491
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Okay, cool.
    So long as you have learned from your mistake it is cool. Have a good one.
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  2. #1492
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    So long as you have learned from your mistake it is cool. Have a good one.
    You didn't teach me anything. There was nothing to learn.
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  3. #1493
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    One thing I don't get is people making excuses using the voice director.

    If you're at a restaurant and have a bad meal you blame the chef it doesn't matter if they had a poor manager in the kitchen. Both suck and both need to improve or be removed. A bad job is a bad job it doesn't matter if it's your fault or not sadly that's how the world has always worked.
    If you don't get why we bring up the voice director, then you're not reading our posts. We bring up the voice director because of how little VA's themselves get when voicing scenes. They do not get visual reference and they don't get any audio reference from other languages. The director has to literally create the scene for them and if they don't set it up well, you can get some pretty lackluster voice acting (you know that scene where Alphinaud jumps into the ocean and makes that weird sound? The VA had no idea that's what Alphinaud was doing). Sometimes VA's don't even know what the character they're voicing even looks like.

    We also bring up the voice director because even long-lasting characters of 8-9 years (technically 10-11, but ARR is included in those years) had... questionable voice acting as well.

    Disappointed in you, Karious.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 07-27-2024 at 05:30 AM.

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    Ok i'd like to ask a simple question based on some tweets the VA made
    in wich she said that the voice actress for Bridget in guilty gear should step down from her role because she does not offer good representation of the character,

    my question now is, why is her, a white woman, playing the role of an indigenous meso-american person, and honestly doing a sub-par job at it if you look at the other casting, EXAMPLE Koana he KILLED it
    by her own logic should she step down to offer her place to someone that would do a better job and/or offer better representation ??
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  5. #1495
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    You didn't teach me anything. There was nothing to learn.
    If you knew the information I provided already why were you tacitly arguing against the validity of trans people then?
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  6. #1496
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    If you knew the information I provided already why were you tacitly arguing against the validity of trans people then?
    I didn't? You argued about people with extra chromosomes. I said such was rare, and you went off about how I'm denying trans-identity. These two are not the same thing.
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  7. #1497
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    Trilla Sarissa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nylnez View Post
    Ok i'd like to ask a simple question based on some tweets the VA made
    in wich she said that the voice actress for Bridget in guilty gear should step down from her role because she does not offer good representation of the character,

    my question now is, why is her, a white woman, playing the role of an indigenous meso-american person, and honestly doing a sub-par job at it if you look at the other casting, EXAMPLE Koana he KILLED it
    by her own logic should she step down to offer her place to someone that would do a better job and/or offer better representation ??
    It makes sense when you stop thinking of it as moral outrage and realize it's just branding.
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  8. #1498
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    anyone else remember the very first post in this thread?

    TRANSPHOBES NOT WELCOME. THIS IS A TOPIC ABOUT BAD VOICE ACTING.
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  9. #1499
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    Question why should I care about the va's identity?
    I literally don't get why I should give a damn about people who were doing a job's thoughts on their genitals and placement in society.

    What I care about is the fact they did a shitty job for a product I paid for.
    If the VA wasn't trans most of you wouldn't be arguing to defend her this hard and probably arguing against her as well.This is such complete social-political brainrot over a terrible job in a product. God all of you keep on subject.
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  10. #1500
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Question why should I care about the va's identity?
    I literally don't get why I should give a damn about people who were doing a job's thoughts on their genitals and placement in society.

    What I care about is the fact they did a shitty job for a product I paid for.
    If the VA wasn't trans most of you wouldn't be arguing to defend her this. This is such complete social-political brainrot over a terrible job in a product. God all of you keep on subject.
    I defend her performance because I liked her performance quite a bit, and I've listened to her other work, she's fine.

    The problem I take is with the direction, because there are times when she's talking more calmly when she should be yelling, and even in this expansion we can hear that she's more than capable of putting on a convincing and satisfying yell.
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