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    Rithy255's Avatar
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    Rithris Amaya
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    I think the current tank fantasy is bad so I'll list vaguely what "Fantasy" I'd want for each tank.

    Paladin
    I feel like Paladin should be a strong defensive pick with some sustain, with great party utility and magic attacks, which it currently does, Personally I'd like them to lean into their supportive capabilities even more, also adding shield attacks and bringing back a form of a second combo finisher without having the strict DOT timer.

    Warrior
    I feel like this tank should have a baseline higher HP by 15%, it should have strong mitigations and self healing but it has to choose between those tools in some cases, similar to how shadowbringers warrior worked in a lot of cases, I also don't think warrior should be able to heal party members, but should be able to still mitigate and maybe even intimidate the boss into less damage (a personal reprisal lol)

    Dark Knight
    Slow regeneration healing life steal tank, some decent sustain that is over time rather then any high bursts, strong party barriers, strong self shielding even maybe ways to "Augment" abilities by using Dark Arts that could change their effectiveness, I also think DRK should have some haste buffs damage wise.

    Gunbreaker
    Allrounder tank that is high APM, I'd give GNB a passive 5% hp buff (similar to how in PVP its got more hp then PLD/DRK but less then War), It should be good at everything but not be the best in one thing.

    If I was to ask for a new tank it would basically be if samurai was a tank, obviously their should be more differences then just that but I think theirs a cool direction that could have been took, you could also add a hammer tank or something, Theirs plenty of directions to take a new tank.
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    Tunda King
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I think the current tank fantasy is bad so I'll list vaguely what "Fantasy" I'd want for each tank.

    Paladin
    I feel like Paladin should be a strong defensive pick with some sustain, with great party utility and magic attacks, which it currently does, Personally I'd like them to lean into their supportive capabilities even more, also adding shield attacks and bringing back a form of a second combo finisher without having the strict DOT timer.

    Warrior
    I feel like this tank should have a baseline higher HP by 15%, it should have strong mitigations and self healing but it has to choose between those tools in some cases, similar to how shadowbringers warrior worked in a lot of cases, I also don't think warrior should be able to heal party members, but should be able to still mitigate and maybe even intimidate the boss into less damage (a personal reprisal lol)

    Dark Knight
    Slow regeneration healing life steal tank, some decent sustain that is over time rather then any high bursts, strong party barriers, strong self shielding even maybe ways to "Augment" abilities by using Dark Arts that could change their effectiveness, I also think DRK should have some haste buffs damage wise.

    Gunbreaker
    Allrounder tank that is high APM, I'd give GNB a passive 5% hp buff (similar to how in PVP its got more hp then PLD/DRK but less then War), It should be good at everything but not be the best in one thing.

    If I was to ask for a new tank it would basically be if samurai was a tank, obviously their should be more differences then just that but I think theirs a cool direction that could have been took, you could also add a hammer tank or something, Theirs plenty of directions to take a new tank.

    to me Gunbreaker doesn't feel like tank, its like they change its skills 2 months before release.

    I we are just being bored by swords why not a shape shift druid bruiser like tank?

    tanks are so weird right now.. in DPS for example:

    we have dps with 15% less damage because of utility they can give to party

    but playing tanks feels so weird

    all tanks have utility all of them do damage all of them play the same job with different weapon

    we don't have:

    1- Tank sustain.
    2- Tank defense + support
    3- Tank drain

    to me all of them are Allrounder tanks and plays 80% the same with little variation (but at least not as bad as healers)
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    Selvokaz's Avatar
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I think the current tank fantasy is bad so I'll list vaguely what "Fantasy" I'd want for each tank.

    Paladin
    I feel like Paladin should be a strong defensive pick with some sustain, with great party utility and magic attacks, which it currently does, Personally I'd like them to lean into their supportive capabilities even more, also adding shield attacks and bringing back a form of a second combo finisher without having the strict DOT timer.

    Warrior
    I feel like this tank should have a baseline higher HP by 15%, it should have strong mitigations and self healing but it has to choose between those tools in some cases, similar to how shadowbringers warrior worked in a lot of cases, I also don't think warrior should be able to heal party members, but should be able to still mitigate and maybe even intimidate the boss into less damage (a personal reprisal lol)

    Dark Knight
    Slow regeneration healing life steal tank, some decent sustain that is over time rather then any high bursts, strong party barriers, strong self shielding even maybe ways to "Augment" abilities by using Dark Arts that could change their effectiveness, I also think DRK should have some haste buffs damage wise.

    Gunbreaker
    Allrounder tank that is high APM, I'd give GNB a passive 5% hp buff (similar to how in PVP its got more hp then PLD/DRK but less then War), It should be good at everything but not be the best in one thing.

    If I was to ask for a new tank it would basically be if samurai was a tank, obviously their should be more differences then just that but I think theirs a cool direction that could have been took, you could also add a hammer tank or something, Theirs plenty of directions to take a new tank.
    Is that what he was asking about?

    Oh in that sense, I just posted in the Warrior Rebalance, that they should be the damage mitigation job, potentially getting it up to 100% mitigation and it then devolving into a game of whack a-mole with your buffs to keep the game going, lol, please look for it in that thread for a full explanation on how it would work and be balanced.

    Dark Knight should be kind of what Warrior is now, the endless healing tank, Dark Knights in previous FF games all had the ability to heal themselves near full health if not full health from stealing hp from their enemies, only way to kill them was to deal so much damage in a single hit or before they had a chance to go again they died. This needs to come back, Soul Eater and Abyssal Drain need to be reworked. every combo hit from the DK 3 piece combo needs to steal life and heal the dark knight, Abyssal Drain needs to be the 3 hit in a 3 piece AOE Combo no longer regulated to sharing a recast timer with Carve and Spit, and being its own spell again.It can keep the reset of its current kit, but those 2 changes would fix Dark Knight in my opinion.
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