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  1. #1461
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    And yet you'll waste them on me. D'aw, you like me that much?
    Yeah, let's smooch.
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  2. #1462
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    It can never be. You're a Lalafell and I'm a Hrothgar. The scandal would be too much... but also because I only like other male Hrothgar. Sorry, they're just my type.
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  3. #1463
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Apparently, according to some people here

    "spEeEeEn liStEN tU MiiiIi"

    is totally acceptable and peak voice acting. Huh.

    I'm just wondering, do you actually enjoy deceiving yourselves?

    I was curious about the VAs other work and visited her website (I know, visiting a Voiceactors official website, how dare I? Almost as bad as looking up her official Twitter...Stalker much? ._.). She posted some examples of her work, I listened to some and I was surprised. In one of them she yelled, got loud, very emotional and angry. It was...good. Almost very good. I couldn't believe this was the same person who delivered the "speeen"-line. Totally blew me away.
    The difference to her role in FFXIV though? She was acting as a man. With a much deeper voice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isseki View Post
    People calling out the VA for being Trans is due the fact that it obv creates problems in their performance. This might suprise you but biological men and women go through puberty differently.
    The fundamental part of a VA is affected by this, the vocal cords. So if someone is born as a male there are obv difficulties if you want to voice a woman. Considering the VA also had to fake an accent didnt helped here.

    So a huge part of the whole problem why THE MC sounds so horrible and flat is because of the VA already having to focus on the voice and the accent... and you can try to frame me as what you want and how you want,
    that won't change anything about the bad voice acting.
    In response to my surprise, I can only quote this. Their voice is what they (voice actors in general) WORK with. What they get paid for. Biological facts do impair Senas voice work, it is how it is. As sad as it might be for her. That's just reality. And of course, I could act like it's not true and be fine with what we were presented with, but I also paid money for the product and tbf, I'm annoyed to pay a lot of money for stuff that is mediocre at best and terrible at worst. Is it bad to want the 'professionals' to actually deliver good work? Does that already count as being entitled? I doubt it.

    Now, excuse me. I have to get ready to be called a xyzphobe, bigot, or some other label. Maybe even dodge some tomatoes or stones. Who knows.
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    Last edited by Aniise; 07-26-2024 at 06:32 PM.
    Me too, Erenville, me too

  4. #1464
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    I ran out of posts earlier, but she's basically calling on people to target the VAs who won't go with the strike. Isn't this insanely malicious wtf? Some people need to work to eat, and some people aren't involved with SAG-AFTRA, like the British VAs I believe? That's a horrible thing to do, don't involve other VAs in your crap and don't send your flock to attack them. Man, it's going to suck with the new FFXIV fans of her going to attack other VAs. Great pick on voice actors Square, cuz the other VAs like Koana's are also striking and will probably share the same sentiment.

    I remember last time SAG abandoned the VAs after they won their other thingy, so I wonder how this'll turn out.

    If she gets malicious towards the British side, she needs to eat dirt and buzz off. This is why I didn't want the voice acting to go back to the American side, they're the worst.
    So since Wuk's English VA is on strike does that mean we'll be getting a recast for the patches out of necessity
    Though I will say it would be very humorous if theoretically 7.1 came around and Wuk just conspicuously had 0 voiced lines in English
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    Formerly Baby Chuck

  5. #1465
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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabySneed View Post
    So since Wuk's English VA is on strike does that mean we'll be getting a recast for the patches out of necessity
    Though I will say it would be very humorous if theoretically 7.1 came around and Wuk just conspicuously had 0 voiced lines in English
    For the delicious irony (and better voice acting), Wuk's new VA should just be AI.
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  6. #1466
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabySneed View Post
    So since Wuk's English VA is on strike does that mean we'll be getting a recast for the patches out of necessity
    Though I will say it would be very humorous if theoretically 7.1 came around and Wuk just conspicuously had 0 voiced lines in English
    Only affects non-existing contracts.
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  7. #1467
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    Vilhem Dijkstra
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    My take on the whole situation, as someone who is Mexican-American and have heard different Latam access due to family/friends in Central and South America.

    In the case of Wuk Lamat, I've seen many people decry a "fake" or inconsistent accent in the way she speaks. It is true that her accent is inconsistent, but I personally did not register it as being a "fault" or a poor performance on behalf of the VA. My brain automatically thought: Well she grew up in the city, which is a mish-mash of different Turali cultures, so, like Koana, she has a mix of Xak and Yok Turali, which neither are the more prominent.

    This, to me, contrasts from Gulool Ja Ja, who's accent is consistent throughout the MSQ. I've pointed this out to several of my friends, and it is so nuanced that they did not pick up on it at all. Happy accident or planned nuance? I'll let you be the judge! Gulool Ja Ja's English VA, Ulises Cuadra, is Nicaraguan, who relocated to Los Angeles and has been in the Latin American Spanish dubbing industry for 30+ years (I remember he voiced Ferio in Magic Knight Rayearth back in the 90s ).

    Lore things aside, I do believe the English voice acting/delivery for DT had much more to do with the new voice director they used, rather than the actors themselves. The Scions were really off the mark in what little screentime they got (Y'shtola even sounded like she was across the room at one point). The Scions + Ulises Cuadra CAN act, and act well.

    Another reason the delivery could be off is due to WHEN the actors recorded their lines. Standard voice recording tends to be in the script/animatic stage, but the way these lines are delivered makes me wonder if there was even a solid script at that stage. It would explain the disconnect between Wuk Lamat busting out of the void like the Kool-Aid man, looking fierce and ready to fight, and yet we only hear the lackluster "Spheeeeeene...." To me it felt like the idea behind that scene in terms of emotion was not even concrete or finished by the localization team when this line was recorded. It reminds me of a conversation I had with Bryce Papenbrook back in June at an anime convention (he does the voice of Mont Leonis in Final Fantasy War of the Visions). He got candid about the recording process for that game and mentioned that when they recorded their lines, there wasn't even a proper script, just a general gist, and that a lot of their recording was one-take improvisation.

    Then there's the case of Erenville: hoo boy lol. Lore-wise, this one's a toughie, but real life explanation is that most likely his Icelandic VA was cast before there was any written back story for him. He's still a fussy little bunbun tho
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    Last edited by Vilhem; 07-26-2024 at 06:45 PM.

  8. #1468
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    Eizen Aifread
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    I don’t know why criticizing poor VA performance makes people transphobic.

    I think behavior like this is toxic and it betrays what LGBT movement was originally about.

    A lot of so called LGBQ allies are doing more harm than good.
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  9. #1469
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    For the delicious irony (and better voice acting), Wuk's new VA should just be AI.
    All VA should just be real time generated by AI in games. Recorded lines are so restrictive its immersion breaking, given that they cannot refer to your character by name, refer to your race, job, what you have done or are wearing.
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  10. #1470
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    Sigurd Hart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Only affects non-existing contracts.
    While true, apparently Sena said that "my day job is ending". It's just theories at this point, but it's entirely possible that we're looking at a replacement here, as the only patches they'd have pre-recorded for is 7.1

    Could also just be that they contract based on patch cycle too, mind.
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