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    jdtuggey's Avatar
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    I think most of us who are on the "better at the game" end of the casual spectrum are really eager to reach out and offer help.
    The problem I see is that the few who complain don't want help. Either they say it flat out, or excuse themselves with X or Y factor.
    There's a point where it becomes legit to ask ourselves "Is this game really for you ?", and in a "I care for everybody's interests equally" way.
    I dropped pages of advice concerning mechanics and game concepts these people seemed to struggle with, and it just gets brushed off.
    I see plenty of sprouts with pristine attitude in game who actually ask questions, have an open mind, and want to learn tho, and these people are amazing to work with.
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    Rydia_Misuto's Avatar
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    Rydia Misuto
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I think most of us who are on the "better at the game" end of the casual spectrum are really eager to reach out and offer help.
    The problem I see is that the few who complain don't want help. Either they say it flat out, or excuse themselves with X or Y factor.
    There's a point where it becomes legit to ask ourselves "Is this game really for you ?", and in a "I care for everybody's interests equally" way.
    I dropped pages of advice concerning mechanics and game concepts these people seemed to struggle with, and it just gets brushed off.
    I see plenty of sprouts with pristine attitude in game who actually ask questions, have an open mind, and want to learn tho, and these people are amazing to work with.
    You're 100% correct. the amount of times I have told someone "That marker with the arrows pointing in means we need to stand together to spread the damage" and they respond with a variation of "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO" is frankly insane, and either equals or outweighs the times I have been thanked for relaying this information. Let alone more complex mechanics, etc. I'm convinced that the problem is nothing to do with the content itself and everything to do with the attitude someone has to hold to believe that self-improvement is anathema to enjoyment.
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    yoshinoharu's Avatar
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    Haru Yoshino
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia_Misuto View Post
    You're 100% correct. the amount of times I have told someone "That marker with the arrows pointing in means we need to stand together to spread the damage" and they respond with a variation of "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO" is frankly insane, and either equals or outweighs the times I have been thanked for relaying this information. Let alone more complex mechanics, etc. I'm convinced that the problem is nothing to do with the content itself and everything to do with the attitude someone has to hold to believe that self-improvement is anathema to enjoyment.
    This right here is why I've stopped trying to give advice to people in general. The simplest advice gets thrown back into my face regularly, and that's exacerbated any time I happen to be wearing an ultimate title or have an ulti weapon glammed. I feel like I can't actually use any of my achievement rewards or offer advice from my own experience without being immediately spat on for being an 'elitist.' It feels like the people who are already trying a bit don't really need the advice and the people that really need the advice are dead set on not trying, it's super frustrating.
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    Kazeshindo Shadowmane
    World
    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I think most of us who are on the "better at the game" end of the casual spectrum are really eager to reach out and offer help.
    The problem I see is that the few who complain don't want help. Either they say it flat out, or excuse themselves with X or Y factor.
    There's a point where it becomes legit to ask ourselves "Is this game really for you ?", and in a "I care for everybody's interests equally" way.
    I dropped pages of advice concerning mechanics and game concepts these people seemed to struggle with, and it just gets brushed off.
    I see plenty of sprouts with pristine attitude in game who actually ask questions, have an open mind, and want to learn tho, and these people are amazing to work with.
    Yeah, I'm fully aware of the "You don't pay my sub" types, and that's not who this thread was meant for. As I said in my op, I know that the game fails to do an adequate job about explaining most things to new players, especially if this is their first MMO, and as such, there are questions to ask that most people don't even know that they SHOULD ask because they don't know they exist. Those are the players that this was originally aimed at. The ones who do want to improve, but don't know how, nor why they are failing to improve even if they are trying to do so.
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