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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    The game is so alt-unfriendly, that you can't even mail your own characters items, a feature that has been in MMOs for bloody years.

    And, there's a very obvious reason for that, and it has to do with an extra 2 dollars per month. Because if we actually could interact with our alts, we could use them as extra storage, which, again, IS A FEATURE THAT HAS BEEN IN EVERY OTHER MMO.

    But, nope. SE wants their money, so basic features from stone age of MMOs aren't allowed.
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    Naomi Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    The game is so alt-unfriendly, that you can't even mail your own characters items, a feature that has been in MMOs for bloody years.
    The reason other MMO's have this (prime example, WoW) is because you are required to have an alt if you want to experience all the classes. Unlike Final Fantasy where it is possible to play every job under one character.
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    Y'noh Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    The reason other MMO's have this (prime example, WoW) is because you are required to have an alt if you want to experience all the classes. Unlike Final Fantasy where it is possible to play every job under one character.
    Except FFXI has had this feature from the very beginning, and you can play all classes on one character from the very beginning.
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    Larien Tiwele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemii View Post
    Except FFXI has had this feature from the very beginning, and you can play all classes on one character from the very beginning.
    The biggest reason XIV doesn't have it while XI does is the sheer amount of RMT abuse it had with the mailing system at one time, so the ability was instead taken away from us (Yes you used to be able to do it in XIV for a short time!) to do it in order to help combat that issue and make it more costly on the RMTs to move money around. Admittedly, it doesn't do much in regards to the ones with massive bot armies etc - but their goal with it was to hamper and slow one specific target group... Those who RMT with their character alone and such and not the bot armies - a deterrent basically against the "Casual RMTer" so to speak.
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    Last edited by LarienTiwele; 07-26-2024 at 07:14 PM.

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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    The game is so alt-unfriendly, that you can't even mail your own characters items, a feature that has been in MMOs for bloody years.
    The reason for that is to keep people from using alts as "item/shop mules" , because that IS what people do on other games. Especially bots. Ever see someone stand outside a guild chest for hours doing things really really fast? That's a bot. They are using the chest as the work-around.

    Like make up your mine SE. If the worry is what I described, then the guild chest should be inaccessible to players not subscribed. If that's not the concern, then simply owning a house and assigning your other characters to the house as tenants should also be a possible thing, and there should also be an item storage locker in the house to allow dropping off outfits for the mannequins and items being held in reserve to put on the marketboards . Otherwise players will just use alternate characters as storage lockers, even if they can't access the retainers.
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The reason for that is to keep people from using alts as "item/shop mules" , because that IS what people do on other games.
    Oh yeah. I'm fully aware, just like I'm aware the reason is most likely because they charge real money for storage space in the form of retainers. Which, honestly, is FAR greedier than even F2P games... Those at least charge you a single transaction per x amount of room. You're not infinitely paying for them.
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The reason for that is to keep people from using alts as "item/shop mules" , because that IS what people do on other games. Especially bots. Ever see someone stand outside a guild chest for hours doing things really really fast? That's a bot. They are using the chest as the work-around.

    Like make up your mine SE. If the worry is what I described, then the guild chest should be inaccessible to players not subscribed. If that's not the concern, then simply owning a house and assigning your other characters to the house as tenants should also be a possible thing, and there should also be an item storage locker in the house to allow dropping off outfits for the mannequins and items being held in reserve to put on the marketboards . Otherwise players will just use alternate characters as storage lockers, even if they can't access the retainers.
    I have alts I genuinely play but also some storage only characters that use the fc chest extensively and I don’t bot. For example, I put all the furniture I get from my retainers in the fc chest and pick it up on one character that either sells it or keeps it for future use. Same with some gear that I intend to use on alts that I really play. I do the same with some other categories of items such as crafting mats: I got all my crafters and gatherers to 100 on one char and passed the mats used for 90-99 levelling to another one that has crafters at 90 and am starting to level up. It keeps the inventory of the characters I actively play tidy and I know exactly where I placed things.

    Anyway, I wish that some non msq based achievements and their rewards were account based or at least shared between alt characters on the same server. For example, craft x thousand things as a carpenter, hunting or pvp achievements.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 07-26-2024 at 09:05 PM.

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    Fa'llynn Aetherpyre
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    I have alts I genuinely play but also some storage only characters that use the fc chest extensively and I don’t bot. For example, I put all the furniture I get from my retainers in the fc chest and pick it up on one character that either sells it or keeps it for future use. Same with some gear that I intend to use on alts that I really play. I do the same with some other categories of items such as crafting mats: I got all my crafters and gatherers to 100 on one char and passed the mats used for 90-99 levelling to another one that has crafters at 90 and am starting to level up. It keeps the inventory of the characters I actively play tidy and I know exactly where I placed things.

    Anyway, I wish that some non msq based achievements and their rewards were account based or at least shared between alt characters on the same server. For example, craft x thousand things as a carpenter, hunting or pvp achievements.
    I think that want is super reasonable, in terms of the achievements, I wish it were a thing for sure.
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