Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Daralii]

The neckseam is so bad on some races it should be it's own thread with a clear title regarding it.

It'd be really funny if the body updates manage to make them worse.

[Argasun]

It'd be really funny if the body updates manage to make them worse.

Not sure but there are clear gaps where you can see light shining through on some races, or severe indentations like they quickly joined meshes or something without making anything smooth. Bizarre.

[lunartears]

In relation to facial expressions being weird or broken now, I got around to looking at Female Au Ra's forehead scale (can't remember if i mentioned it in this thread but either way) and can confirm that yes it is now moving abnormally.

Bit difficult to portray this issue in a photo so here's what it's doing in 7.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiKCyp6uV4 (and here's what it was like in 6.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWpYvbvPtE)

Reported it as a bug but thought I would share it here, thankfully I recorded my 6.5 face's expressions ahead of time.

I also feel like the forehead scale has been moved more upwards as opposed to being in the center (might have to check this myself though). I would also appreciate any input from other Female Au Ra players if your forehead scales are moving around as I haven't made any characters using the other faces to check.

[Rueby]

In relation to facial expressions being weird or broken now, I got around to looking at Female Au Ra's forehead scale (can't remember if i mentioned it in this thread but either way) and can confirm that yes it is now moving abnormally.

Bit difficult to portray this issue in a photo so here's what it's doing in 7.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiKCyp6uV4 (and here's what it was like in 6.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWpYvbvPtE)

Reported it as a bug but thought I would share it here, thankfully I recorded my 6.5 face's expressions ahead of time.

I also feel like the forehead scale has been moved more upwards as opposed to being in the center (might have to check this myself though). I would also appreciate any input from other Female Au Ra players if your forehead scale is moving around as I haven't made any characters using the other faces to check.

This looks very strange to me, it feels oddly hm...stretchy? Like a tattoo almost. I don't know but what I'm seeing is that its shape deforms abit with brow movements due to how 'expressive' they decided to make the facial expressions...

[FateweaverAlpha]

Snip!

My video isn't nearly as good as yours sadly cause PS5 recording stinks sometimes, but you can see the forehead scale is definitely moving with emotes that have bigger eyebrow movements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9WmgGiReTM

Au Ra Raen Face 2.

[Neytirhi]

I looked at some Endwalker pics, and gosh the eyebrow color change is such a bother. They're just invisible comparatively. Some comparison pics (sorry they're not as good. The emotes don't really look quite the same anymore so it's harder to get matching angles).I know the skintone is different, I changed it to a bit warmer for Dawntrail, so don't mind that.

Endwalker


Dawntrail

Hey there ! I've been following your bug reports since Benchmark 1.1, I have the same issue as you with my miqo'te and I'm devastated.

I just can't start the MSQ with that face... I even had the early access, but come on... cutscenes looking eyebrowless?? No way!

I also tried the other faces and the other tribe and just as you said, it feels so unfair that we're the only one with this issue ; and since the same face for the Seekers have eyebrows that looks just fine/other faces have the right color, I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

EW Face :


Benchmark 1.0 Face :


DT :


I was so happy with 1st Benchmark....


My other complain is about emotes/face in general, as many : I have to change so many portraits because now they looked super weird. For instance the taunt emote looks dumb now for some reason and gives a super puffy face.

I don't have an HQ version of it in EW since I could'nt possibly think I would need to take a proper screenshot of it before DT (it's from team portraits so it is small),
but here is a comparison of my BM portrait in EW vs in DT, using the taunt emote :



DT just gives "i'm so tired huhu" vibes... ugh (and eyebrows gone on vacations doesn't help ovbiously)
I don't have screens of the worst portait because I changed it right away, it looked terrible after DT (but again the same tired vibe & puffy).


So in conclusion, my character in DT looks now eyebrowless and like a hamster with cheeks filled with food, and I should do MSQ looking like this? Heck no!


How can we make things change and reach SE efficiently?? I'm desperate...... Feels like they don't care about those bug reports
Is there anyone talking about the eyebrows in the japanese bug report forum?

[Tahli]

Benchmark 1.0 Face :


DT :


I was so happy with 1st Benchmark...

The first benchmark was so much more flattering on Miqo'te.

[smitten_miquitten]

I also tried the other faces and the other tribe and just as you said, it feels so unfair that we're the only one with this issue ; and since the same face for the Seekers have eyebrows that looks just fine/other faces have the right color, I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

I really really hope they actually read my new bug and either make it the main one instead of my old bug for benchmark 2, or add the Seeker vs Keeper info to the old one if they won't swap them. I'm really worried they'll go "Dupe!" and yeet it without reading that there's new relevant info that I can't add to the original bug (such a silly policy imo, why is adding new stuff not possible?).

[smitten_miquitten]

After work I'm going to get screenshots for different eyebrow colors too. All of the Keeper ones go greyish as they get lighter it seems like, not just white and blonde.

[GreenLeafy]

The neckseam is so bad on some races it should be it's own thread with a clear title regarding it.

Was in a Ruby Weapon farm today and noticed that for whatever reason Nael also suffers from this?


It has been a long time since I ran that trial but I genuinely don't remember her having that and am completely lost how this even is translating to unique models.