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  1. #61
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    This is just because normal mode is always chaos. You don't really bother learning more than the very basics for the fight as it isn't necessary. Those AoEs that you feel almost clipped you in normal, will be planned for and practiced in savage. Savage is a more organised experience lol
    Kinda sorta, my main concern is also the "My ping is so bad even though I dodged it I still got hit" aspect of how fast they go off, usually they give a reasonable delay between the mechanic being telegraphed and it going off, but there seems to be less time to move for some mechs in the fights in the latter half of the raids.

    Though you're probably right, normal is likely just gonna be rapid-firing telegraphs and savage will be the one with all the time in the world to move because other things are happening while the mechanics are going off, I just find it annoying being tested on reaction time, even if I know that you can speed up reaction time by simply getting used to the mechanic.

    Hell, if I'm having trouble reacting in time because of the tight windows to move, then I feel sorry for the average player (I.E. someone who doesn't go to the forums) who's going to be a little slower to respond in time, so getting that extra second or half a second would be a godsend
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    Watching forum drama be like

  2. #62
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    AmorfaVex's Avatar
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    Jack Garlund
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I don't mind playing difficult content if there is a reward.. mount is not my thing I don't care about cosmetics other than gear..

    difficulty = rewards
    mounts isn't my thing is it hard to understand?
    So you're saying the juice isnt worth the squeeze, the risk isnt worth the reward.

    I hear ya, but then again, it has nothing to do with how difficult the encounter is.
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  3. #63
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    Jetto's Avatar
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    Lavernius Jetto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    im a casual and been playing since 2.0 and im a below average player

    this xpac def had the hardest norm dungeon mechanics out of any xp
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  4. #64
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I don't mind playing difficult content if there is a reward.. mount is not my thing I don't care about cosmetics other than gear..

    difficulty = rewards
    mounts isn't my thing is it hard to understand?
    It's okay, you can just admit you can't clear EX2.
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  5. #65
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    LilyPendragon's Avatar
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post

    Though you're probably right, normal is likely just gonna be rapid-firing telegraphs and savage will be the one with all the time in the world to move because other things are happening while the mechanics are going off, I just find it annoying being tested on reaction time, even if I know that you can speed up reaction time by simply getting used to the mechanic.
    That's what I meant. In normal, you just react to everything, as you do it like once a week unless you get it in roulettes, and the punishment for failing is usually half your health bar and a vuln stack, rather than death. In savage, you'll (hopefully) know exactly what AoE's are going to be where (usually with a different pattern or two) and can position and resolve accordingly, as opposed to reacting to mechanics mostly on the fly. It's a less reactive experience, and more preparatory/anticipatory one.

    The mechanics will be significantly faster, and harder to resolve, but you will be relying on your ability to learn, and your memory, rather than your reaction time.

    If you've never done savage before, I definitely recommend dipping your toes into it, especially at expansion drop where everyone is still gonna be at the same stage as you (knows nothing about the fight). It's not as gruelling as it's made out to be (for me the biggest challenge has always been getting 8 gamers to actually turn up to a scheduled raid on time)
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    Last edited by LilyPendragon; 07-24-2024 at 05:59 AM.

  6. #66
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    Lak14's Avatar
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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    lol as if most people like the current game design

    people are getting bored from Endwalker even Yoshi P mentioned that

    have you read all the posts of people complaining about this expansion? or are you blind? jobs.. encounters.. rewards.. you are one who is out of touch stop worshipping the game like as if it is your identity you look pathetically looser
    mfs cant even clear extreme but want to talk about "difficulty"

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  7. #67
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    Volgia's Avatar
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'd like more challenging content on experts, I like that boss on the haunted park in that expert dungeon that catches you with your pants down, I hear people angrily comment on how badly the boss design is when I actually realized they're angry because they can't do max dps in peace.

    But I also fear that you might give some people here an aneurysm if you do, considering the other threads on the subject.
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  8. #68
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    mfs cant even clear extreme but want to talk about "difficulty"

    Man, look at this guy with all of his Extreme kills... Wait. Where are your extreme kills? Cause you haven't killed a damn thing since Hydaelyn. Shut up and sit down.
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  9. #69
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Bragging about killing an extreme is the funniest thing I've seen here all week.
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  10. #70
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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Man, look at this guy with all of his Extreme kills... Wait. Where are your extreme kills? Cause you haven't killed a damn thing since Hydaelyn. Shut up and sit down.
    why bothering extreme when i can enjoy harder content ?

    https://youtu.be/vlkOc7D2TtI
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