Reconsidering the Removal of Energy Drain/Dissipation - A Note on Scholar

[Post]

Yeah, I'd prefer if Energy Drain was buffed instead of removed. In its original incarnation, it did 150 potency while SCH's basic Ruin filler was 80. Granted, this was less than Bio 2 (300), Miasma (270), Bio (240) and even Aero (200), but compare that to now where all of SCH's Aetherflow healing tools are dramatically more powerful (Sacred Soil is absurdly huge, has an Indomitability built in and then some) and other free oGCDs are plentiful, even beyond ones that used to be used while casting.

Today SCH has the GCDs Biolysys (750) and Broil IV (310). Its only DoT is only 2.6x stronger than its basic filler where before its weakest of 4 DoTs was 2.5x. The rest were 3x stronger at least.

And thus, Energy Drain almost being 2x stronger than it was a lot more impactful and worth considering, especially as it returned more HP and some MP. It was a more relevant choice to be made, one that was reflected in SCH's Faeries as well as Eos offered way more healing but Selene could provide additional damage if used in the right circumstances. I contend that Energy Drain feels pointless and annoying mostly because the devs have all but removed it, again, it only existing today due to player backlash.

I would prefer if it and similar design elements of spending potential healing resources would return to the forefront of SCH, since that was part of its original DNA and one of my original draws to the job.

[rewd]

1) If you want to Play SCH without ED, play SGE

2) ED shouldn't be removed but it should get an animation upgrade, AoE damage, and it should be buffed. And we should get quickened aetherflow back.

[flowerfairy]

I'm not sure where in the minority or majority I am on this, but I find Energy Drain forcing a constant consideration of healing vs DPSing to be counter-intuitive, and not fun.

I don't think having a choice between a supportive or offensive option is counter-intuitive. On the contrary, it's a very common trope in many types of games and I think FFXIV needs to do it more.

Can it feel uncomfortable and stressful at times? Yes, it can... and I think that's good! That's the point. It pushes you to weigh the needs of your party in the moment, learn what consequences come from a choice, and overall become a more knowledgeable player. This is a very good gameplay loop to get players to keep playing the game.

That being said, I personally don't feel attached to Energy Drain. What it offers can be done in other parts of its kit. But I think what most people are afraid of, is that Energy Drain will be removed and nothing interesting will replace it. It's very common with job reworks so I don't blame them.

GCD healing in itself is having to make a constant consideration of healing or using a GCD attack spell, so I'm curious about how you feel about having to GCD heal as a healer.

[Valence]

Imagine after using aetherflow and having your little gauge gems charged up, every time you use ED one of the aetherflow stacks unlocks by draining the energy of the enemy, and allowing you to cast all of the aetherflow repertoire... On the UI you'd get chains around your aetherflow purple gems a bit like SMN around their own gems when unable to summon them, and once you ED, one of them unlocks with a chain. Rewards players to use ED to do damage by giving them access to heals.

But on the other hand, you'd lose the decision making between burning your resource onto damage or healing. Which has been a similar debate on gap closers for the past expansions.

[Supersnow845]

Imagine after using aetherflow and having your little gauge gems charged up, every time you use ED one of the aetherflow stacks unlocks by draining the energy of the enemy, and allowing you to cast all of the aetherflow repertoire... On the UI you'd get chains around your aetherflow purple gems a bit like SMN around their own gems when unable to summon them, and once you ED, one of them unlocks with a chain. Rewards players to use ED to do damage by giving them access to heals.

But on the other hand, you'd lose the decision making between burning your resource onto damage or healing. Which has been a similar debate on gap closers for the past expansions.

That’s basically just addersgall but instead of passive charging you charge by doing an oGCD damage ability against the enemy

It wouldn’t add anything to SCH and just rip its entire optimisation out because in that scenario there is never a wrong time to use SS

[Payadopa]

I still don't understand why people put so much importance in maximising Energy Drains when each cast of Energy Drain is weaker than an uncomboed Aeolian Edge.

Losing 100 potency to heal doesn't even matter. You know what's a bigger DPS loss? A dead player.

Agreed. Energy Drain should either be revamped or removed. It's a trash skill in its current iteration.

[Ramiee]

ED restoring hp is my only gripe with the ability. If it restored MP it would be so useful outside of just being a spender.

[Valence]

Does SCH have actual MP issues?

[Supersnow845]

Does SCH have actual MP issues?

No healer really has MP issues

The only time you will have MP issues on SCH is overuse of seraphism as seraphism doesn’t mitigate SCH’s expensive GCD costs like recitation does

[Ramiee]

Does SCH have actual MP issues?

not massively but still its far more useful then hp that can be restored by my fairy.