Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[shinjyu]

Does anyone have (or know of a YouTube channel that has) pre-Dawntrail recordings of a face 4 female miqo’te doing the /converse animation, and/or other animations where the mouth is open, with a good view of the face?

I feel like these animations look incredibly strange on my face 4 (mouth 3) female miqo’te after the update. There seems to be something wrong with the top lip’s position or shape when a character with this face (or maybe just the specific mouth my character uses?) talks or opens their mouth. I’d like to be able to compare the old version with the current version to better understand what I’m seeing.

here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs

[GreenLeafy]

here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs

God I miss , at the very least , the colour of the old teeth models...it didn't feel like Veneer Fantasy. I miss that Sunseeker miqo look T__T I ran some ARR with an alt that has that same face and her mouth animations and eyelids kind of stretch weird often in cutscenes. Tinkering with facial meshes seems to have really janked up the custom animations for some cutscenes.

[Feathetaria]

I have a retainer that looks the same as my Highlander alt, so I gave her a Retainer Fantasia last night to see if there was anything I could do to fix her… (I think she’s back on page 66 somewhere). And really, no. I can sacrifice my usual face paint and use it to slightly lighten up the eyeshadow they darkened way too much. But the whites of the eyes are still gray looking. And the biggest problem is still the mouth. Like you said, the lips being changed makes the lips look pursed, or like they’re biting their upper lip, because it’s half gone. And along with the mouth shape changing, the philtrum is so pronounced that it doesn’t matter what lips you choose, they look like duck lips. It’s really a shame. It’s not the same person anymore, and more importantly, facial expressions and emotes are totally different looking. Midlander is much the same, with the addition of dark bags under their eyes that make them look like they haven’t slept in a month.

Yes. I Extremely Dislike the Philtrum changes for female Miqo'te Face 3 mouth 4. It's horrible.



That is the "/alert" face. I showed it to a friend and they linked this...



"/think" is so ugly now

[Rueby]

here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs

Can I ask you for the facial expressions for Face 4 Miqo as well? Keeper if you can if not that's okay...looking at that vid made me really miss my old char :/
I made a video on the new facial expression emotes but I think I missed 1. I posted it earlier.

[Mr_Gucky]

I was hoping that the devs would react, at least a word would have been enough. But so far nothing has happened and with every day that passes my hope is fading.

[Daralii]

I was hoping that the devs would react, at least a word would have been enough. But so far nothing has happened and with every day that passes my hope is fading.

I'm fully expecting them to ignore it just to avoid losing face. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, but the pages and pages of feedback and examples and in-depth comparisons are likely going into the metaphorical paper shredder.

[Doopliss]

I was hoping that the devs would react, at least a word would have been enough. But so far nothing has happened and with every day that passes my hope is fading.

I'm fully expecting them to ignore it just to avoid losing face. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, but the pages and pages of feedback and examples and in-depth comparisons are likely going into the metaphorical paper shredder.

I understand the lack of acknowledgement right now is bad, but they did already confirm (in a footnote of the final benchmark update lodestone post...which is annoying...) that they'll continue making adjustments in Dawntrail patches. The issue is too big on the ENG and especially the JP forums to ignore.

Of course, I think they should still make a dedicated post acknowledging that they failed a large amount of their customers. It's completely reasonable to be aggravated that they haven't.

Just...don't give up hope, and, in spite of others who may try to poorly convince you to do otherwise, keep bringing attention to it. They have a frustrating history of fixing things completely silently, even while people ask for acknowledgement for months on end (again, I really think their silence sucks regardless).

[shinjyu]

Can I ask you for the facial expressions for Face 4 Miqo as well? Keeper if you can if not that's okay...looking at that vid made me really miss my old char :/
I made a video on the new facial expression emotes but I think I missed 1. I posted it earlier.

https://youtu.be/I8VrTxEoXhE?si=ImZX8iCKvQfY0LsE

as your request~ sorry i can give you only basic emot

/biggrin (mgp 20,000), /reflect (seal 10,000), /ponder (4.3 MSQ) are should be buy fantasia or took a many times

i will search any volunteers as i can who can use /ponder.

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man i got volunteer in 6 am lol

https://youtu.be/0UL7iqad0yI?si=0o118icjvHSLgHal

[Rueby]

https://youtu.be/I8VrTxEoXhE?si=ImZX8iCKvQfY0LsE

as your request~ sorry i can give you only basic emot

Thank you so much for this...I'll include it in my bug report that'll hopefully not get rejected...or get dumped in insufficient information if that's okay.

It's here

Let's hope it doesn't get thrown into insufficient information...I'd be really interested to see people test the emotes on their chars and watch out for the eyebrow twitching. Someone said it happens on Fem Aura too. Maybe if we compile more findings it might get fixed. I'm trying hard not to lose hope.

[Fawkes]

I'm not sure if there's a way to embed video on this forum but I made a somewhat scuffed youtube video showing the eyebrow twitching issues + facial expressions for face 4 moonies...

It took so long to upload. I wish I could upload more, but I'm not seeing anyone speak about this issue

Here

Edit:
I think I forgot ponder, it took an hour to upload this video..ugh. Ponder actually has the twitching issue.
I would love to see if other people can go check the expressions on their characters too...I don't think this is acceptable especially on the player character...cmon.

In your video the lips are twitching too. In the sneer, pucker up and big grin expressions at least.