Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[MoonStoneX]

Have you watched Naruto? What lies are you spouting?

1. True
2. Naruto wanted to become Hokage so people would respect him, because he was desperate for love since he's never shown it. You can tell the importance of the bonds he created throughout the story in the anime during the final rasengan scene where he's able to create a rasengan by himself without a need of a clone, or you can interpret it as a wanting of other people and instead he's fine with what he has now.
3. The local population doesn't hate Wuk Lamat, she has less worshipers than the other promises, but she still has people cheering her on, like her not dead father and milk-mother. Naruto had no one, manga-wise.
4. Naruto is hated by everyone, so idk where you're finding people that don't hate him. He has to slowly earn everyone's recognition.
5. Naruto doesn't become friends with everyone for no reason, he worked with and helped many of them. He usually has to beat them, Gaara and Pain. He had to talk no jutsu a lot of people, like Zabuza w/ Haku. He was also beaten up by the Cloud Ninjas, the girl that became Choji's wife. ETC he went through alot. We can only hope we get a scene where Wuk Lamat gets punched up bad, but doubt that's going to happen.
6. Sasuke wanted to create a better world by becoming Hokage, redoing the whole shinobi system that was corrupt and caused the suffering of his people and brother. Zoraal Ja had daddy issues and wanted to feel special by doing something grandeur because he's a special child for being born.

Don't relate Naruto to Wuk Lmao. Watch the Anime, skipping fillers, or read the Manga, because you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
People need to stop relating Wuk to Naruto, it's such a bad take.

Dawntrail is more like Guardian Spice, than anime. Same shtick.

I was just about to point out everything wrong with that post but you beat me to it. I am not the biggest Naruto fan but hell even I know that the Wuk Lamat and Naruto comparison are just stupid and make no sense if you watched the anime or read the manga. I will also add that Naruto wasn't hated by EVERYONE. He did have some people on his side early on who understood him at the very least.

[Oizen]

People just bring up Naruto because when Naruto was an annoying little shit kid, all he would do is go on and on about "IM GONNA BE HOKAGE BELIEVE IT".
The difference between Wuk and Naruto however, is Naruto grew up.

Wuk never grew, she was just rewarded for being that annoying little shit kid.

[Raven2014]

Endsinger was good for what it was like you said. I don‘t see the need to try to replicate that again.

And that's hardly the only instance, just the most offensive one. For an expansion that's supposed to be the start of a new story, DT feels less of an original and more like a collection of copy-cat elements, especially the second half. If I were to write my first story as a teenage, I know I would pieced together my favorites story elements from 3-4 different manga instead of coming up with my own. That's pretty much what I think DT's writers did.

[jameseoakes]

And that's hardly the only instance, just the most offensive one. For an expansion that's supposed to be the start of a new story, DT feels less of an original and more like a collection of copy-cat elements, especially the second half. If I were to write my first story as a teenage, I know I would pieced together my favorites story elements from 3-4 different manga instead of coming up with my own. That's pretty much what I think DT's writers did.

Dawntrail really feels like it's just been picking elements that seemed to go down well and just copied them with no idea why they either worked or got away with it the first time round

[Isala]

Dawntrail really feels like it's just been picking elements that seemed to go down well and just copied them with no idea why they either worked or got away with it the first time round

I mean, SE did say they were looking into implementing more AI into their projects. Dawntrail makes you wonder...

[Midare]

I was just about to point out everything wrong with that post but you beat me to it. I am not the biggest Naruto fan but hell even I know that the Wuk Lamat and Naruto comparison are just stupid and make no sense if you watched the anime or read the manga. I will also add that Naruto wasn't hated by EVERYONE. He did have some people on his side early on who understood him at the very least.

Perhaps the comparison comes from the fact that Poochie and Naruto share the "shonen protagonist" archetype, as in: "Dumb, loud and OP when needed".

[Striker44]

Wuk never grew, she was just rewarded for being that annoying little shit kid.

I honestly have trouble seeing how the generic "reasonable person" would conclude that Wuk Lumat didn't grow. Compare the Wuk Lumat you meet at the start with the one who becomes Dawnservant, and it's night and day. The Wuk Lumat you first meet has no self-confidence and constantly tries to cover up her weaknesses with utterly unconvincing bravado; she has empathy that the other contestants lack, but doesn't see it as a useful trait compared to Zoraal Ja's strength and Koana's cunning. By the time she becomes the Dawnservant, she's confident, she recognizes her empathy as a positive, powerful trait essential to being a leader, she's more willing to openly admit her weaknesses, she even sees the benefit of partnering with Koana as Dawnservants to reflect the Heads of Reason and Resolve.

There's a lot about Wuk Lumat we can debate. Did she receive too much screen time? Should she have had less of a role in the second half of the MSQ? Was her appearance in the final Trial fight really worth it? And so on. But her growth over the story seems like one of the few things that's undeniable. If someone doesn't like the character, it might be annoying to acknowledge that she grew, but that doesn't change the reality.

[RezPls]

Hope they make a hard heel turn on the current story direction and hire a better director for the English voice actors. Anyone playing the lvl 100 trial on English VA has experienced the aptly-put "yelling in lowercase" low energy performance that Wuk gives. Did we only have time and money for 1 take?

I get Final Fantasy is supposed to be about the power of friendship and that stuff, but we get to High School Musical levels of embarrassment with the cutscenes (specifically when Wuk becomes the dawnservant and the train cs...and I'm someone who loves stage musicals) was just painful to watch and even more abysmal to play outside of battle content. Disappointing to see that the 6.1-6.5 cringeworthy Zero was just the prototype for the single note drone that is Wuk Lamat.

[Nothv13]

I honestly have trouble seeing how the generic "reasonable person" would conclude that Wuk Lumat didn't grow. Compare the Wuk Lumat you meet at the start with the one who becomes Dawnservant, and it's night and day. The Wuk Lumat you first meet has no self-confidence and constantly tries to cover up her weaknesses with utterly unconvincing bravado; she has empathy that the other contestants lack, but doesn't see it as a useful trait compared to Zoraal Ja's strength and Koana's cunning. By the time she becomes the Dawnservant, she's confident, she recognizes her empathy as a positive, powerful trait essential to being a leader, she's more willing to openly admit her weaknesses, she even sees the benefit of partnering with Koana as Dawnservants to reflect the Heads of Reason and Resolve.

There's a lot about Wuk Lumat we can debate. Did she receive too much screen time? Should she have had less of a role in the second half of the MSQ? Was her appearance in the final Trial fight really worth it? And so on. But her growth over the story seems like one of the few things that's undeniable. If someone doesn't like the character, it might be annoying to acknowledge that she grew, but that doesn't change the reality.

The reason people don't see the growth is because she does nothing to earn it. She walks around talking to people and having things go her way no matter how dumb her decisions. Her weaknesses never actually hold her back to failure, so they are meaningless. Kidnapped and lose a keystone to a character that is obviously well above her level? No problem, next time I'll just beat him and his entire retinue without breaking a sweat. What will I do to earn it? Just talk to more people. I guess you could count the dungeon and trial as something more, but no where near what would be needed to earn such a huge powerup. Repeat this for her little scuffle with the soul powered Zaruul.

Oh, that tribe that is a cult with decades of ingrained xenophobic culture? Nah, one little talk will make the head of it completely change his ways and trust the outsiders that they know nothing about.

None of it, none of it is earned.

[aiqa]

I honestly have trouble seeing how the generic "reasonable person" would conclude that Wuk Lumat didn't grow. Compare the Wuk Lumat you meet at the start with the one who becomes Dawnservant, and it's night and day. The Wuk Lumat you first meet has no self-confidence and constantly tries to cover up her weaknesses with utterly unconvincing bravado; she has empathy that the other contestants lack, but doesn't see it as a useful trait compared to Zoraal Ja's strength and Koana's cunning. By the time she becomes the Dawnservant, she's confident, she recognizes her empathy as a positive, powerful trait essential to being a leader, she's more willing to openly admit her weaknesses, she even sees the benefit of partnering with Koana as Dawnservants to reflect the Heads of Reason and Resolve.

There's a lot about Wuk Lumat we can debate. Did she receive too much screen time? Should she have had less of a role in the second half of the MSQ? Was her appearance in the final Trial fight really worth it? And so on. But her growth over the story seems like one of the few things that's undeniable. If someone doesn't like the character, it might be annoying to acknowledge that she grew, but that doesn't change the reality.

Her growth is very open to interpretation. The only real growth she shows is combat ability, and that is largely undeserved from start to finish. Lower her ability to enforce her ideals with violence, and suddenly it's not obvious she had much character growth. At the end of the game she is just as impulsive, just as emotional, just as childish, just as naive, just as selfcentered, just as irresponsible, just as intrusive, etc.