Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[EusisLandale]

There was no genocide. Ffs.

We're told none of those people are even really alive, this is true. But that's all, we're only told not shown that these people aren't real.
None of the characters actually act like they are fake, not them and not the "living" characters. They have personal problems, goals, and desires and we help them with those and try to give them happy memories. If they weren't real what was the point of doing all that before pulling the plug?

[Papayatar]

If Dawntrail becomes a story about a peace-loving ruler who eventually becomes twisted and obsessed about how true peace can only be obtained by stripping away the rights and freedoms of everyone else and we have to put her down to prevent a genocide? Sign me up.

Koana? Do the thing.

This honestly just made me think of the Elden Ring DLC.

Peace loving ruler, check
Obsessed with peace, and forces it on people and strips them of freedoms, check
PC has to put them down, check

It might not be 1:1, missing the genocide part, but just import the second points into FFXIV for the final evolution of Wuk Lamat’s story and DT suddenly becomes way better.

And while in Elden Ring town, borrow whoever the voice director person too is so we can get at minimum a smidgen of the quality back in the VAing.

[Zaniel]

Lost his emperor, had his homeland destroyed, lost all but 1 of his adopted kids. "Good Ending".

If this was a Japanese TV drama show all the kids would be dead and Gaius would have thrown himself of a bridge somewhere so on a scale of Japanese 1-10 yeah its a good ending.

[Reimmi]

I really don't understand all the hate honestly, I like the trope of her character and I liked her earnest take on the world, I liked that she didn't give that up even with all the despair and the twistedness of the second arc of the game.

Because she's around too much.
cut her screen time in at least half and she's fine
and don't let that damn cat steal my final boss kill. that really irritated me

[Reimmi]

I feel so sorry for all the people being this mad about a video game.

This is a paid game that takes thousands of hours of playtime for some people
Weird how people can be invested in something their passionate about huh? can't imagine...

[GrizzlyTank]

We're told none of those people are even really alive, this is true. But that's all, we're only told not shown that these people aren't real.
None of the characters actually act like they are fake, not them and not the "living" characters. They have personal problems, goals, and desires and we help them with those and try to give them happy memories. If they weren't real what was the point of doing all that before pulling the plug?

They were effectively people at death bed that needed the genocide of others to live.

[Daralii]

This honestly just made me think of the Elden Ring DLC.

Peace loving ruler, check
Obsessed with peace, and forces it on people and strips them of freedoms, check
PC has to put them down, check

It might not be 1:1, missing the genocide part, but just import the second points into FFXIV for the final evolution of Wuk Lamat’s story and DT suddenly becomes way better.

Either that or have her suffer a loss so monumental that it shatters her worldview and she never fully recovers.

[Coratanni]

Nah, she's not even a fraction as annoying as Alphinaud and I had to stick with that twerp forever.

Also, she can't drag anything down.
The story is such a boring copy&pasta of previous plots/arcs and apparently the writers either had no idea what was going on or weren't given enough time to even remotely fix it up.

I regret not skipping, I figured the plot after the first couple of quests.
The only surprise was the 1:1 copy of the assians plot.

We've had to talk to Wuk Lamat 138 times in this expansion. Alphinaud was NOT stuck to our hip through ARR and HW combined as much as she has been through this expansion. The two are not comparable at all and at least he grew as a character. Probably more so than any character in the entire story.

[Ramiee]

"His kids" you mean the orphans (which he & his army made orphans btw) that he was grooming to be soldiers? Yeah what a great guy, give him a metal and throw a party for him .

Yeah not saying he was great guy I am saying he loved those adopted children as his own, he loved his legion, he loved his homeland and he loved his emperor.
In turn he lost all of his children and feels responsible for all of their death and even before that he came to regret them being groomed into being soldiers because of his change in of heart so he was already guilt ridden. He was manipulated by Lahabrea into using ultima which killed his entire legion, he hated himself for it so much the only reason he stayed alive was because he felt like he didn't deserve the peace of death. His entire homeland has been completely and utterly destroyed in a civil war, the entire military and goverment population has been destroyed and most of the civilians have also died, he wasn't able to save his Emperor from the Ascians and he truly believed he could of helped the Garleans find peace between the other nations by fighting their joined enemy of the asicans but completely and utterly failed.

If you think hes evil and iredeemable thats fine all im saying is he never had a happy ending, if anything him dying back in ARR would of been more of a mercy then what he went through.

[Daralii]

Yeah not saying he was great guy I am saying he loved those adopted children as his own, he loved his legion, he loved his homeland and he loved his emperor.
In turn he lost all of his children and feels responsible for all of their death and even before that he came to regret them being groomed into being soldiers because of his change in of heart so he was already guilt ridden. He was manipulated by Lahabrea into using ultima which killed his entire legion, he hated himself for it so much the only reason he stayed alive was because he felt like he didn't deserve the peace of death. His entire homeland has been completely and utterly destroyed in a civil war, the entire military and goverment population has been destroyed and most of the civilians have also died, he wasn't able to save his Emperor from the Ascians and he truly believed he could of helped the Garleans find peace between the other nations by fighting their joined enemy of the asicans but completely and utterly failed.

If you think hes evil and iredeemable thats fine all im saying is he never had a happy ending, if anything him dying back in ARR would of been more of a mercy then what he went through.

He also found out that the emperor he served for most of his life, Solus, was also an Ascian. Everything he believed and did was built on lies.