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    Quote Originally Posted by Malia_Chan View Post

    Show some bloody appreciation for their hard work.

    STOP COMPLAINING!
    Let me paint you a picture: If I cook you a Steak and put a lot of work into it, it can still taste bad to you and everybody else. If I do not get any feedback on that I will keep making bad steaks and my Restaurant would go bankrupt.

    YOU should be glad people still Care enough to give feedback or "complain" as you describe it.
    If people go into apathy-mode and stop caring, they move on and the Game dies. I saw this happen on quite a few games i loved to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Let me paint you a picture: If I cook you a Steak and put a lot of work into it, it can still taste bad to you and everybody else. If I do not get any feedback on that I will keep making bad steaks and my Restaurant would go bankrupt.

    YOU should be glad people still Care enough to give feedback or "complain" as you describe it.
    If people go into apathy-mode and stop caring, they move on and the Game dies. I saw this happen on quite a few games i loved to play.

    People complained about the MSQ dungeons not being doable in ARR because nobody queue'd for them.
    -> They made them part of a dedicated roulette


    People complained they couldn't enjoy the cutscenes because veterans skipped and killed the boss while people enjoyed the story
    -> They made cutscenes unskippable


    People complained not enough people ran them to get queues going
    -> they added buffed experience requirements and tokens


    This was a good example of where "complaints" and feedback actually helped solve the problems.
    The majority of posts I have been reading on these boards the last weeks have been....none of the sort...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    People complained about the MSQ dungeons not being doable in ARR because nobody queue'd for them.
    -> They made them part of a dedicated roulette


    People complained they couldn't enjoy the cutscenes because veterans skipped and killed the boss while people enjoyed the story
    -> They made cutscenes unskippable


    People complained not enough people ran them to get queues going
    -> they added buffed experience requirements and tokens


    This was a good example of where "complaints" and feedback actually helped solve the problems.
    The majority of posts I have been reading on these boards the last weeks have been....none of the sort...
    You only list gameplay things though.

    The other side of the medal is:

    People complained that we are only nodding and standing around
    -> they added dialogue options

    People complained about Lyse
    -> they benched her

    People complained about AAR pacing
    -> they trimmed it down

    People absolutely loved Emet-Selch
    -> they gave him more scenes in EW

    People loved G'raha Tia and his eating scene
    -> they made him a focus and played up his eating stuff (that was actually in an interview recently)

    What I'm trying to say:
    They absolutely do take feedback be it positive or negative.
    The majority of the posts for the last weeks were about Wuk Lamat, the WoL only nodding and standing around, no gameplay in the MSQ far too less Krile and problems in the writing.
    These are as rightfull to be posted as those gameplay issues you listed.

    If i am unhappy with the story I will say so and it seems I'm not the only one who thinks that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    You only list gameplay things though.

    The other side of the medal is:

    People complained that we are only nodding and standing around
    -> they added dialogue options

    People complained about Lyse
    -> they benched her

    People complained about AAR pacing
    -> they trimmed it down

    People absolutely loved Emet-Selch
    -> they gave him more scenes in EW

    People loved G'raha Tia and his eating scene
    -> they made him a focus and played up his eating stuff (that was actually in an interview recently)

    What I'm trying to say:
    They absolutely do take feedback be it positive or negative.
    The majority of the posts for the last weeks were about Wuk Lamat, the WoL only nodding and standing around, no gameplay in the MSQ far too less Krile and problems in the writing.
    These are as rightfull to be posted as those gameplay issues you listed.

    If i am unhappy with the story I will say so and it seems I'm not the only one who thinks that.

    That's a fair thing to do.
    But I do feel that there needs to be constructive feedback included.
    I can totally respect someone saying they did not like the story, as long as they can point out what part they don't like and what they want to see changed.
    Because that's something that can be worked with.


    People just going "this sucks".....okay?
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