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  1. #1861
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    fioravictorine's Avatar
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    Fiora Victorine
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    White Mage Lv 100
    So Wuk Lamat really is a Primal that makes everyone worship and love her

    Let us kill her please SE

    And more Erenville like the polls suggest
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  2. #1862
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    Mercutio Montealvo
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    If Dawntrail becomes a story about a peace-loving ruler who eventually becomes twisted and obsessed about how true peace can only be obtained by stripping away the rights and freedoms of everyone else and we have to put her down to prevent a genocide? Sign me up.

    Koana? Do the thing.
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    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

  3. #1863
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    Midare Dare
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Otis being below the one-gag Hrothgar in the side-character department is a damn crime though.

    I can only assume his JP actor sounded super obnoxious or something.
    I was thinking about the exact same thing.

    I'm aware that the sort of joke Wuk Evu uses it's very popular generally for japanese audiences, but I felt they ran the joke into the ground after the 3rd time. Meanwhile, I cried for my boy Otis.
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  4. #1864
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    i cant help but seeing this expansion is another SE experiment for the current western being "woman is strong" archetype that currently riddled their games now
    As a member of the lgbtq community I understand the need for diversity. But diversity in general felt better when it didn't feel like these companies were trying so hard. Early FF games had Terra, Celes, Rydia, Rosa, etc and they felt like a natural inclusion. Same with Barret. That even goes with companies like Disney. Pocahontas, Lilo and Stitch, The Emporer's New Groove, The Princess and the Frog, they all felt like they naturally just belonged in the line up and that they were just trying to tell a story kids would like, loosely based off of fairy tales, myths or legends.

    But now it feels forced which in turn makes it feel gross and comes off as almost more sexist/racist/homophobic that before. While its good that more people are being able to find work in places that they were once mostly blacklisted from or only hired for cringy stereotypical roles and more care is being taken to treat culture and peoples with at least a modicum of respect, the fact companies are flying these hires, stories and character from a flagpole like they are saying, "look at us, look how inclusive we are, aren't we swell" makes me feel like we are still not seen as people since now we are a commodity. And whats worse is there are people within our own communities exploiting us for profit.
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  5. #1865
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    Freja Heleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    If Dawntrail becomes a story about a peace-loving ruler who eventually becomes twisted and obsessed about how true peace can only be obtained by stripping away the rights and freedoms of everyone else and we have to put her down to prevent a genocide? Sign me up.

    Koana? Do the thing.
    You described Gaius
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  6. #1866
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    You described Gaius
    Didn't get to put him down though. Tyrant got his good ending...
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    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

  7. #1867
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    Zellith Shivaan
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    I actually had a joke with my FC. "Regicide is always an option". Then I completed the succession arc and killed the wrong queen.
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  8. #1868
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    Didn't get to put him down though. Tyrant got his good ending...
    I feel like Gaius went through enough punishment during his storyline.

    If you factor him also working with Estinien to stop the Ascians...I think he's earned the 'Vegeta Pass'.

    (21)
    Last edited by Maxilor; 07-21-2024 at 07:37 AM. Reason: Grammar
    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  9. #1869
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    It makes zero sense to me that the same writers gave us pretty decent character development with Koana, having a heart to heart with Urianger and Thancred, and being distraught by his sister being kidnapped. But then when it came to Wuk Lamat, she's insecure, afraid of heights, and not strong enough to beat Bakool Ja Ja, but magically instantly overcomes all of those things for seemingly no reason at all? She has like ~90% of the screen time and you're telling me they couldn't use any of it to show her getting over insecurities instead of just being like "you're right, I should just stop being insecure" and that's it??? She's cured??? That's not how it works!! Maybe edit out one of her 2,000 rants about loving peace to instead be about some actual frickin character development.
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  10. #1870
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    I feel like Gaius went through enough punishment during his storyline and him working with Estinien to stop the Ascians that he gets the 'Vegeta Pass'.
    Nuh uh.

    /10char
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    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

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