ARR > Dawntrail

[Nitelancer]

The numbers don't lie.









https://www.metacritic.com/game/fina...-realm-reborn/
https://opencritic.com/game/271/fina...a-realm-reborn

[Daralii]

I put more stock in user score than critic score. It's not exactly a secret that companies as big as SE will bribe critics(through the outlet or as individuals), and Steam's user reviews are as simple as you can get with them just being a yes/no on whether or not you'd recommend it.

[Carolingian]

Can't argue with that. While they sort of go for the same thing, Dawntrail just feels way too sanitised and Disney compared to ARR. A real shame.

[PaulH]

1000 users giving feedback is a very low sample.

[Nitelancer]

1000 users giving feedback is a very low sample.

But the user sample is about the same (~1000, which is not at all a "very low" sample if you know anything about statistics), and the critic reviews are also higher for ARR.

[GrizzlyTank]

Arr while being jank. Had a much more mature story.

Twice in a row now the chapters have been almost to say a age-range lower than they used to be.

[Jeeqbit]

These figures are not equal.

The ARR figures are for PS4, while the Dawntrail figures are for PC. So it's not an equal comparison.

The second batch of images don't show the User Score, which is the only score worth anything. The other one is created by journalist who spend barely any time playing or understanding the game. They probably wipe to basic stuff like stack markers and then write in their little review that it's "hard".

Regardless, I think the User Score is often initially a lot of frustrated players protesting and will probably change over the long-term as the more casual players leave their reviews and balance the score. If you check back some years from now, the User Score will probably be a lot higher.

I do think the feeling of FF9's lore being trashed on will leave a poor impression to many who played it though. If they had changed the lore enough to not resemble FF9 so much, it may not have left an impression like this but unfortunately this could affect the User Score in the future as well. Nevertheless, if you can separate yourself from the references to FF9 and pretend you never played it, it's a decent expansion.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Eh. Personally I'd put them about equal. ARR has a ton of jank, a lot of slow points (the Company of Heroes, the whole Coerthas arc, etc), and absolutely abysmal English voice acting.

Personal ranking, from favorite to least: Shadowbringers, Heavensward, ARR, Dawntrail, Endwalker, Stormblood. I still really don't like Stormblood.

[Folsom]

Arr while being jank. Had a much more mature story.

Twice in a row now the chapters have been almost to say a age-range lower than they used to be.

100% agree. ARR definitely had its issues with fetch quests, pacing, and general jank, but the story, even though it wasn't told as well as Heavensward and Shadowbringers, was much more mature and engaging than Dawntrail's. ARR had political intrigue, relatable stakes, and diverse character behavior. Dawntrail, by comparison, feels like a cartoon. It has all the political intrigue and character growth of a couple episodes of GI Joe or maybe Captain Planet.

Now, that's not to say it should have been darker, but even a light and uplifting story has the potential to feel good and relatable. Dawntrail just felt like a fanfic.

[Alchemii]

These figures are not equal.

The ARR figures are for PS4, while the Dawntrail figures are for PC. So it's not an equal comparison.

The second batch of images don't show the User Score, which is the only score worth anything. The other one is created by journalist who spend barely any time playing or understanding the game. They probably wipe to basic stuff like stack markers and then write in their little review that it's "hard".

Regardless, I think the User Score is often initially a lot of frustrated players protesting and will probably change over the long-term as the more casual players leave their reviews and balance the score. If you check back some years from now, the User Score will probably be a lot higher.

I do think the feeling of FF9's lore being trashed on will leave a poor impression to many who played it though. If they had changed the lore enough to not resemble FF9 so much, it may not have left an impression like this but unfortunately this could affect the User Score in the future as well. Nevertheless, if you can separate yourself from the references to FF9 and pretend you never played it, it's a decent expansion.

Your correct. ARR on PC has a Critic rating of 83, and a user rating of 7.8