Stop Complaining!

[Dhregin]

Just going to place my two cents here. While a weaker person may be averse to criticism, time and again The Developers have given thanks and appreciation for Feedback on the Game.

We can talk ad-nauseum about what is legitimate Criticism, or unfair critique -- or possibly that a lot of "feedback" is less than constructive...

But by no means should we be encouraging anyone to stifle their opinions (however potentially 'unfit' for human ears their take might be), because it is the practice of allowing eachother to vent, critique, praise, or express at will that helps make the game better (or sometimes... worse).

It's up to the Developers to decide what is worth listening to and what is not - and we can't really blame the complainers for bad design choices so much as we should attribute it to Developer decisions to adhere to poor choices should that be your concern.

Not that I'm really worried, there's been plenty of good and bad over the years, and I'm sure there will be plenty more; Tumult is part of the mmo train-ride. Always has been, always will be.

[sylphlands]

People have every right to criticize something they pay monthly for, buy expansions for, devote a ton of time and effort into, and have formed a community around. I find it bizarre that just saying a team "worked hard" on something means they're immune to feedback and crit - that's how we get terrible writing like Dawntrail. The strongest criticisms for DT are coming from people who have adored this game for years and are invested in its storytelling - framing all those people as whiny bedwetters is cheap.

[Venarius]

If I'm buying a golden turd and keep paying for it's maintenance, all while it's layer of gold starts peeling off - revealing an actual stinking turd beneath, you bet your sorry lobotomized ass I'll start complaining.

[Hwan]

It's a video game. Made by people who love making video games.

Nothing is perfect and nothing is catered specifically for YOU.

Stop being so selfish and narcissistic. Try to enjoy life and the games we play

FF14 is one of the best MMORPGs out there. They devs do a great job dealing with quality and making sure the game is polished.

Show some bloody appreciation for their hard work.

STOP COMPLAINING!

If there is something that I don't like or have concerns, then I'm going to a place where I can voice my discontent and that is here since that's where the devs look to said feedback. If you don't like people voicing their opinions that are different from yours, you should follow your own advice.

Also if we just blindly accept anything as good even if they are mediocre or bad, you kind of don't want that, because eventually things will take a turn for the worse and get an FFXIV expansion that is just on WoW Shadowlands level of bad and have a mass exodus of players from FFXIV to either other MMOs or just quit entirely. I had thoughts of quitting WoW at that point in Shadowlands because how bad it is, that's how I started playing FFXIV in the first place around May 2021.

I would rather be critical and see things improve before they get worse, even if its something that I like then sit here and blindly sing praises how this game is the best in the MMO market and it doesn't need changes.

[Venarius]

If I'm buying a golden turd and keep paying for it's maintenance, all while it's layer of gold starts peeling off - revealing an actual stinking turd beneath, you bet your sorry lobotomized ass I'll start complaining.

And the best thing about it is knowing it triggers some loyalist in the process, well knowing there's nothing they can do about it.

Deal with it.

[Payadopa]

Feed. Forum.
A forum for feedback.

Funnily enough, the people said the same thing in the closed alpha before 1.0 came out. I should know. I was there.

History is truly doomed to repeat itself.

[Striker44]

People have every right to criticize something they pay monthly for, buy expansions for, devote a ton of time and effort into, and have formed a community around. I find it bizarre that just saying a team "worked hard" on something means they're immune to feedback.

I concur 100%.

that's how we get terrible writing like Dawntrail.

This is where I think the issues come in. When people conflate subjective opinions with objective facts. I feel the response to "criticism" and the negative reputation this place has could be turned around if more people started acknowledging that most of what we post about is simply our personal opinions. For example, you feel the writing in DT is terrible; I feel it's great. Neither one of us is "right" - we just have our own opinions.

The strongest criticisms for DT are coming from people who have adored this game for years and are invested in its storytelling

Here we can get a little objective. Stroll through some of the threads and you'll see many of the same names that were also regulars in similar threads about EW. There will always be people rotating in and out who are indeed new to offering a negative take (just like others who had negative takes about past expansions can be positive about this one), but there's also a sizable segment that's been disgruntled for years.

framing all those people as whiny bedwetters is cheap.

Agreed. The same would be said, though, about framing all those who dare to post that they enjoy the expansion as white knights, "loyalists", etc..

[NeroFlorence]

Yeah. It’s a Video Game LITERALLY MADE FROM CRITICISM

Without players voicing their displeasures back in 1.0, this game would’ve died then and there. It’s because of player’s criticisms that we’re able to enjoy it now.

Not voicing our displeasures would ultimately go against the very pillars that XIV is built on.

[Aurumis]

If the game has problems and did worse than before, we will complain.

Because that's what you are paying for. You talk like if it was completely free when they milk you for changing races, milk you with subs, milk you with past event gear and objects you will never have if you didn't play in the moment and if you had personal problems to play that event or your sub when that event happened? Heh, go pay more to get those items in the store.
And if you have a house? Don't think of unsub because they will delete your house and your items so you have to continue being milked every month with a sub that it's overpriced.

No dear, this is no indie game, this is no tiny company, they fuck up things? They need to listen to the critiques and see what they did wrong.

[LalafellDown]

That’s fine I’ll take the $40 loss for the expansion, but they’re not getting anymore of my subscription money. I have no desire to resub for this expansion.