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    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    Constructive feedback is not complaining. People, including me, payed good money for this. We are entitled to expect a good product, for the money we spend. If people are not satisfied, they have every right to air their grievances. So maybe follow your own advice and stop complaining....just a thought.
    You had me at constructive feedback and lost me at entitled.

    It's realistically impossible to cater to every single individual out there, at the end of the day it's still their vision and their game. It's fine not to agree with their vision and you are also free to pick a better product that fits your needs. Fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    You had me at constructive feedback and lost me at entitled.

    It's realistically impossible to cater to every single individual out there, at the end of the day it's still their vision and their game. It's fine not to agree with their vision and you are also free to pick a better product that fits your needs. Fair?
    The thing is if ALOT, and I say ALOT of your PAYING PLAYERS, and not just EN players at that EVEN JP PLAYERS, are not happy with the product then I'd that yes, Something went wrong with the product. This is not just some stray comment disparaging the product, alot of it are constructive criticism too.

    People that say "Oh if you dont like it then unsub" just in a different wording, literally don't contribute to the discussion at all because this is an MMO, and its PAYING PLAYERS ARE IT'S LIFE BLOOD. If ALOT of the paying players are not happy, then they will lose customer. I get what you're saying if its just some few dissatisfied player saying this but there are alot of people unhappy about the expac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemy View Post
    The thing is if ALOT, and I say ALOT of your PAYING PLAYERS, and not just EN players at that EVEN JP PLAYERS, are not happy with the product then I'd that yes, Something went wrong with the product. This is not just some stray comment disparaging the product, alot of it are constructive criticism too.

    People that say "Oh if you dont like it then unsub" just in a different wording, literally don't contribute to the discussion at all because this is an MMO, and its PAYING PLAYERS ARE IT'S LIFE BLOOD. If ALOT of the paying players are not happy, then they will lose customer. I get what you're saying if its just some few dissatisfied player saying this but there are alot of people unhappy about the expac.
    That's absolutely fine. If enough players stop playing and there is no real growth anymore then, they will be compelled to make a meaningful change.

    While everyone's voice matters and everyone is free to voice concerns and dissatisfaction, as long as those aren't measured in meaningful numbers, businesses will NEVER cater to a small majority. Not when other options are present on the market that could absorb those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    That's absolutely fine. If enough players stop playing and there is no real growth anymore then, they will be compelled to make a meaningful change.

    While everyone's voice matters and everyone is free to voice concerns and dissatisfaction, as long as those aren't measured in meaningful numbers, businesses will NEVER cater to a small majority. Not when other options are present on the market that could absorb those.
    This is the official forums tho, It exist soley for discussions and criticism. And even if its kinda slow the criticism does reach them. That's the reason why there are changes here and there, even the grape thing from EW reached them. And FFXIVs one of SE most profitable ventures because its steady income. So people complain.

    People are still holding hope that the patches story will save this mess, but what if it didnt? Maybe its Shadowlands Exodus FFXIV version. Maybe it's not. Who knows? But if people stopped complaining, then its a sure fire way to kill the game. So I'd rather complain than shut the fuck up. I paid 40 dollars for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemy View Post
    This is the official forums tho, It exist soley for discussions and criticism. And even if its kinda slow the criticism does reach them. That's the reason why there are changes here and there, even the grape thing from EW reached them. And FFXIVs one of SE most profitable ventures because its steady income. So people complain.

    People are still holding hope that the patches story will save this mess, but what if it didnt? Maybe its Shadowlands Exodus FFXIV version. Maybe it's not. Who knows? But if people stopped complaining, then its a sure fire way to kill the game. So I'd rather complain than shut the fuck up. I paid 40 dollars for this.
    Hey now, I'm still bitter about the grapes changes. I want to crystal polygon shaped grapes back.

    But yea, not only should we be putting in are complaints, this is the exact place to be doing it. Here and in reviews of the game are the exact spots to be putting criticism and show distaste of the current state of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemii View Post
    Hey now, I'm still bitter about the grapes changes. I want to crystal polygon shaped grapes back.
    go to wineport they're still crystal polygonal shaped there =)
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!