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  1. #1811
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    Fiora Victorine
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    They also invested in so many projects and mobile games that all failed. FFXIV and 7 remakes are basically the only thing that is keeping the company afloat - and from the looks of it, they never reinvest much of those profits back into the game (mocap cutscenes and voice acting remain minimal and even less than before etc)
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  2. #1812
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Gulool Ja Ja: "Yeah if nobody's suited for the throne they ain't getting it."

    ...Oookay, so there go *our* personal stakes in the story. Zarool Ja isn't going to be a threat. He's not getting the throne, because he's not suited for it and ultimately Gulool knows it. I mean, kudos to the big guy for actually thinking it through- two heads are better than one I guess- but it undercuts our investment. .
    This quick chat after the fight was probably the ONLY part of the succession storyline that made sense. It should have just been done at the very start, GJJ recognizes us as a power (in fact maybe even has intel on us) then says "Yeah basically all my kids are horribly unsuited in one way or another, including Wuk Lamat, she's kind but also a hapless idiot. As a god warrior saviour who happens to be here on holiday could I ask you to just keep an eye on things and make sure she doesn't burn herself grabbing hot objects, maybe at the end of this one of them will grow up, if not well them's the breaks".
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  3. #1813
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    This quick chat after the fight was probably the ONLY part of the succession storyline that made sense. It should have just been done at the very start, GJJ recognizes us as a power (in fact maybe even has intel on us) then says "Yeah basically all my kids are horribly unsuited in one way or another, including Wuk Lamat, she's kind but also a hapless idiot. As a god warrior saviour who happens to be here on holiday could I ask you to just keep an eye on things and make sure she doesn't burn herself grabbing hot objects, maybe at the end of this one of them will grow up, if not well them's the breaks".
    Which is also why it was immediately interrupted by the house cat, because the camera hadn't been on her for a few minutes.
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  4. #1814
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    Garolymar's Avatar
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    Serkonius Garolymar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    This quick chat after the fight was probably the ONLY part of the succession storyline that made sense. It should have just been done at the very start, GJJ recognizes us as a power (in fact maybe even has intel on us) then says "Yeah basically all my kids are horribly unsuited in one way or another, including Wuk Lamat, she's kind but also a hapless idiot. As a god warrior saviour who happens to be here on holiday could I ask you to just keep an eye on things and make sure she doesn't burn herself grabbing hot objects, maybe at the end of this one of them will grow up, if not well them's the breaks".
    I'd actually be pretty fine if Wuk Lamat was treated like the idiot she is in the beginning and then people eventually warm up to her at the end. People shouldn't be praising her like a toddler from the get go for no reason. In fact my first impression was that they might go down that route when you see everyone just leave the palace grounds before she even comes out to be introduced like the rest of the claimants. That could've been an interesting story line

    Instead everyone just instantly likes her. Which makes our purpose kinda pointless. Her preppy talks should've fallen short and made her look like an idiot, she should've been beaten down a little more because she had no actual plans for the throne other than screaming peace at the top of her lungs, at the end of the expansion she should've had a clear goal for where she wanted to take Tural into the future instead of upkeeping the status quo that could fall apart at any moment when face with such a do nothing leader.

    If you put Wuk Lamat in any scenario that isn't Dawn Trail she would fail miserably, she gets by because Tural is written by somebody who apparently doesn't understand politics or group tensions and that everyone and anyone will just instantly get along when somebody tells them too.
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  5. #1815
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    Eira Landale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garolymar View Post
    everyone and anyone will just instantly get along when somebody tells them too.
    Let's be honest here, not everyone and anyone gets along just for being told to.

    Sometimes they have to be shielded from a bird attack or be fed tacos first.
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  6. #1816
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garolymar View Post
    I'd actually be pretty fine if Wuk Lamat was treated like the idiot she is in the beginning and then people eventually warm up to her at the end. People shouldn't be praising her like a toddler from the get go for no reason. In fact my first impression was that they might go down that route when you see everyone just leave the palace grounds before she even comes out to be introduced like the rest of the claimants. That could've been an interesting story line

    Instead everyone just instantly likes her. Which makes our purpose kinda pointless. Her preppy talks should've fallen short and made her look like an idiot, she should've been beaten down a little more because she had no actual plans for the throne other than screaming peace at the top of her lungs, at the end of the expansion she should've had a clear goal for where she wanted to take Tural into the future instead of upkeeping the status quo that could fall apart at any moment when face with such a do nothing leader.

    If you put Wuk Lamat in any scenario that isn't Dawn Trail she would fail miserably, she gets by because Tural is written by somebody who apparently doesn't understand politics or group tensions and that everyone and anyone will just instantly get along when somebody tells them too.
    Yeah.
    The biggest problem in all that is that Tural in the MSQ is already perfect. If she was allowed to fail once or twice and learn then it would have been better.
    Make it so the harvest actually NEEDED technology to be safes. (Koana)
    Make it so the bandits weren’t treated as „those poor souls“ but actually be held responsible for killing, kidnapping and stealing. (Zoral Ja)
    Make it so the Mamool Ja have an actual good reason to look for the two headed ones like look at what GJJ did. He FIRST got tobte peacetalk with power and then with understanding. (BJJ)

    That way she could have learned that sometimes there have to be other ways besides peace and happiness and her applying Koana as DS also would have had more meaning then seeming like pity tbh.

    I think in that way her own resolve for peace would have also been more believable instead of „I have such a big heart uwu“.
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  7. #1817
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Let's be honest here, not everyone and anyone gets along just for being told to.

    Sometimes they have to be shielded from a bird attack or be fed tacos first.
    It is actually insane how we've come from Varis trying to justify his country's cruelty to the Eorzeans and also calling out their own and telling them flat out that blood and violence is the only way things will be resolved between the Garlean Empire and the Alliance, to whatever the hell was going on in Tural. Like do they think children play MMOs nowadays cause that's what Dawntrail feels like. The baby expansion that can only pay lip service to topics like racism and death, and loss but won't actually get into them.

    https://youtu.be/nlqCq4ktDZ0?si=B_hMFmf7zyEL-FAW&t=392
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  8. #1818
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    I feel so sorry for all the people being this mad about a video game.
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  9. #1819
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    I haven't finished EW yet and after reading this topic, I am dragging my heels to actually finishing it. I came back after a 3 months break and did purchase DT with early access, but didn't use that. On the last stretch of EW and I have no desire to have my playtime ruined by a neutered housecat.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

  10. #1820
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    Nox Noverus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I feel so sorry for all the people being this mad about a video game.
    I mean, for many, it's not just a cheap video game product. For some, it means their pocket money, for others, it means a sum of money 3 meals worth. Dawntrail is not just a cheap product, it's quite expensive for many people, including me. Therefore, it's their right to voice their discontents about the product/game they bought with their hard earn money.
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    "Bait used to be believable"
    -TASTE THE CURSE OF RA

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