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    How does Eutrope know that the WoL has an extra dense soul?
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    Sending, zenos shard incoming, from the realm of lightning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How does Eutrope know that the WoL has an extra dense soul?
    That's something I noticed, too, and I'm sure that will come up in the story somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How does Eutrope know that the WoL has an extra dense soul?
    She doesn't have any confirmation, she just reached that conclusion after seeing the WoL beating the crap out of everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitelancer View Post
    In the story they make seven "simulacra" to aid you based on your memories using souls.

    "Metem informs you that each fighter in the Ascension Arcadia Championship employs the use of feral souls to augment their strength, and the three tiers of the competition are divided by the potency of the souls utilized: the light-heavyweight tier at the lowest level, followed by the cruiserweight tier, and finally the heavyweight tier at the highest level. Your goal is to climb the ranks by defeating the respective champions of each tier and ultimately become the grand champion. To ensure the matches are fair, Metem requires that the souls of seven fighters join you in battle. Should you be victorious in your matches, he promises to set them free."

    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...lenger_Appears
    The WoL even refuses at first until Metem proposes to free the soul if they win.
    That said, even if WoL was using Azem's Crystal versus the opponent using their gadget and soul fusing it would remain pretty fair.

    The opponents can create copies of themselves or summon bombos/bee workers/tesla cannon.
    WoL bringing just 7 normal people isn't a stretch.
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    Can I call her an Ardbert fan?
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    Is it fair if we use the magical Azem Plot rock to do the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    The WoL even refuses at first until Metem proposes to free the soul if they win.
    That said, even if WoL was using Azem's Crystal versus the opponent using their gadget and soul fusing it would remain pretty fair.

    The opponents can create copies of themselves or summon bombos/bee workers/tesla cannon.
    WoL bringing just 7 normal people isn't a stretch.
    I like to think that the WoL is more or less holding back and fighting them as 8 regular people... Because we fought Zenos 1v1, who is an exceptionally strong Garlean, who not only had his Echo also had all the power of Shinryu.
    Compared to Zenos, I don't think most of the fighters in the Arkadion are anywhere near him in terms of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I like to think that the WoL is more or less holding back and fighting them as 8 regular people... Because we fought Zenos 1v1, who is an exceptionally strong Garlean, who not only had his Echo also had all the power of Shinryu.
    Compared to Zenos, I don't think most of the fighters in the Arkadion are anywhere near him in terms of power.

    And this is why I hope the writing won't eventually try too hard to make it a power creep in order to give the WoL a challenge. My head cannon is my WoL is not in it for the bloodlust, survival or proper challenge, I'm in it for the theatrics, reward, and a good cause. No different than a champion hosting fight for charity or a sport team going on pre-season tours.

    Also with the current structure we probably gonna have one guest appearance each tier, they can use those one for a proper fight. I'm ready for me and my man Eistenien to show the Alexandrian the kind of fight two people can do without regulators.
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    The WoL's canonical strength often kind of seems all over the place, but tbh I'm fine with the whole "protagonist is as strong as they need to be" trope. Zenos at the end of EW was probably our strongest opponent (hello fellow Zenos haters) and we still beat him solo in the end, but things would get boring fast if we were just perpetually at that level all the time. Plus, I like the implication that, even as absurdly strong as we are, we're ultimately at our best when we band together with others, cause it's very in-line with XIV's major themes.
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