The tragic state of Machinist

[Ramiee]

MCH will never be the "selfish" dps of ranged bc if it had the same damage as BLM or SAM then people would play them over DNC or BRD. Sure the party buffs are great but if MCH's personal damage was high enough, then it outweighs the rDPS of the other two.

Plus the devs values the ranged tax too much for MCH to be anywhere close to the top.

If the utility of the other two were better they'd be picked for it as well. The same way you still see monks and ninjas instead of just samurais. If anything the entire Phys range role needs reinventing and the jobs in it need to become good at their niches. But for certain Machinist should be the DPS Phys range.
This is just the fear the Devs have of ARR bard, they made it so broken that they're literally terrified of giving Phys range decent damage again. They really need to get over it and fix the Phys range role. TP has been gone for 5 years now and the Phys range still feel like they're balanced around being the guys who give tp.

[CidHeiral]

I don't know where MCH places on the damage tier list but gameplay wise it's more fun than it's ever been. MCH was always my "turn brain off" job but now it's busy enough to actually be pretty fun and engaging. 10/10

[LibitIncarne]

Of all the points one could criticize on MCH, I can't say I expected somebody to actually complain on... mobility.

MCH is the only physranged without any form of mobility tool.
It is one of two DPS jobs without a mobility tool. SMN's Crimson Cyclone doesn't count.
Scholar and Astrologian also don't have a mobility tool.

DNC gets 3 charges of En Avant.

[CKNovel]

It's okay for MCH to not have mobility tools in my opinion.
It's better to have diverse jobs with strentgh and weaknesses.

I get mobility tools are fun but they aren't required, not everyone needs mobility.

[Valence]

MCH is the only physranged without any form of mobility tool.
It is one of two DPS jobs without a mobility tool. SMN's Crimson Cyclone doesn't count.
Scholar and Astrologian also don't have a mobility tool.

DNC gets 3 charges of En Avant.

And... you need a mobility tool when playing rphys?

Also, don't you dare associating BRD's pitiful backstep with a mobility tool; you'd do the exact same result by just running back. This is a gimmick at best. I like using it just to justify its presence on my hotbar and look fancy when bored though.

The real reason they hand mobility tools to certain jobs is essentially based on them having melee radius or skills. WhM for example, got one for that specific justification on AoE (probably didn't need it tbh but here you go), and SGE as well. DNC when introduced also got one unlike its 2 rphys cousins because it had a lot of melee action to justify as well. When it comes to casters, it's usually justified by cast times conflicting with mobility, which goes back to uptime constraints.

MCH and BRD and i'd say SMN as well, have no such constraints.

[Jirah]

I literally registered for a forums account so that I could hopefully post feedback somewhere where devs might see it (if you know of elsewhere, feel free to let me know!) but I'm here to complain about the current state of Machinist;

Machinist has been done dirty this expansion, arguably the lowest damage out of ALL DPS jobs and they're supposed to be the "selfish" of the physical range DPS jobs. They really need to boost Machinist's damage by a decent bit, especially since Machinist has NO movement! Dawntrail has brought us content more challenging than before (which is great), but the more demanding the content is the more painful the reality is for Machinist to not have any sort of in-combat movement action besides sprint.

Before Endwalker, this could be arguably balanced since Machinist could hold its own with DPS but now it's just sad to not have any movement buttons and therefore be clutching your pearls, praying sprint is not still on cooldown, WHILE also not keeping up with every other DPS in damage. Feelsbadman. Machinist does not even have the party buffs/utility that Dancer and Bard both bring to the table, dancer also has charges of movement ability...

It's in a rough spot I'm really hoping Machinist can be balanced this upcoming patch.

What does DPS have to do with movement? Also unless your doing the P word, you will never really know if your DPS is bad or good so idk how you manage to see your dps is low and also it somehow effects the tangible kit. 1k potency or 200k potency, job plays the same unless the enrage (which atm only 3 EX trials have and 0 dungeons) is creeping up.

Furthermore both BRD and DNC need to be close to party member which is why they have their movement abilities, MCH is a easier job than both of them ontop of being ranged so theirs no need to zip away to and fro unless your desperate for a crutch. Your overreacting that its in a tragic state cuz it doesnt have a En avant charge DPS be dammed. Couldve mentioned the fact it got zero new skills added to its kit, all being shallow finishers or upgrades, or the fact their AOE still sucks and is also has alot of bloat for the 2nd shallowest job in the game. But whatever

[Ruminous]

Looks like we live to suck for another patch.

[SJWhat]

Absolutely no potency increases for us. I'd be at a loss for words if this behavior was new. At this point, you're only playing Machinist because you really like the aesthetics.

[Valence]

MCH is not faring worse than other ranged taxed jobs. If anything it's the whole role that should be buffed asap, but they never learn. ShB and EW had the exact same problem at the release of their first tier and got buffed for x.1.

[Ramiee]

Absolutely no potency increases for us. I'd be at a loss for words if this behavior was new. At this point, you're only playing Machinist because you really like the aesthetics.

uhmmmm just wait until 7.05 :^)
Oh they still didnt get fixed uhhhh wait until 7.1 :^|
Oh still not... just wait until 8.0!!! they'll fix all the jobs by 8.0!!!! Just wait 2 years!!!! :^/