The many writing missteps of Dawntrain.

[Aulainn]

What? When you turn off the first tower, there are literally Endless happily waving goodbye, and at least in the first aether current quest, the tour guide happily tells you you're his last customer. If you talk to the knight after the cheesy event, he thanks you for ending his existence on a brighter note. And on and on.

... sometimes I feel like people just don't pay attention on purpose.

Excuse me? You were the tour guides last customers because you deleted everyone else, he didn't hate his job or anything he just had an unfulfilled wish that you helped fulfill. Also yeah, I bet someone would thank you for making them happy before death, we have real life groups that do that, we even give meal wishes to death row inmates. None of these are examples of people being happy they're disappearing.

[Folsom]

Excuse me?

There is no excuse for you. The point is that he, and virtually everyone else, was clearly, obviously happy with ceasing to be. I'm no fan of the Dawntrail writing or story; it's not great. But the writing made it clear that the endless were fine with dying. People wading around in a mire of headcanon because they don't think they *should have* been fine with dying should be complaining about the writing, not making up garbage interpretations of the story.

[Aulainn]

There is no excuse for you. The point is that he, and virtually everyone else, was clearly, obviously happy with ceasing to be. I'm no fan of the Dawntrail writing or story; it's not great. But the writing made it clear that the endless were fine with dying. People wading around in a mire of headcanon because they don't think they *should have* been fine with dying should be complaining about the writing, not making up garbage interpretations of the story.

Only headcanon here is that "everyone" is fine with it, this is insane, you're projecting your own garbage ideas. How do you, rather how am I supposed to interpret that the guy who waited decades for his girlfriend to join him in Living Memory is HAPPY to die minutes after finally meeting and proposing to her?

[Folsom]

Only headcanon here is that "everyone" is fine with it, this is insane, you're projecting your own garbage ideas. How do you, rather how am I supposed to interpret that the guy who waited decades for his girlfriend to join him in Living Memory is HAPPY to die minutes after finally meeting and proposing to her?

Because the writers gave numerous clues about the endless either being okay with or ambivalent about "dying," which is how writers put general opinion of a populace in every story. The fact remains that literally only sphene objected to her people being erased. The game even goes so far as to show that the people who had a good reason for sticking around did, which is the point of the aether current quests. If the guy who had been waiting for his wife was desperate to spend more time with her, he wouldn't have disappeared.

So, no. That's not headcanon. It's perfectly consistent with the writing. Meanwhile, you can continue to feel bad about the poor man and his wife. Maybe write a fanfic if you like.

[ThorneDynasty]

Because the writers gave numerous clues about the endless either being okay with or ambivalent about "dying," which is how writers put general opinion of a populace in every story. The fact remains that literally only sphene objected to her people being erased. The game even goes so far as to show that the people who had a good reason for sticking around did, which is the point of the aether current quests. If the guy who had been waiting for his wife was desperate to spend more time with her, he wouldn't have disappeared.

So, no. That's not headcanon. It's perfectly consistent with the writing. Meanwhile, you can continue to feel bad about the poor man and his wife. Maybe write a fanfic if you like.

This I can agree with. I just wish they hadn't tried to handwave the morality with the wishy-washy attitude whether they were living beings or not.

We spent a whole previous expansion exploring the fallacy of utopia and immortality - Combine that with the fact they were unwilling vampires and we know the lifestream is a thing they can return to, it'd have been completely fine to end up with the conclusion they had to go regardless and probably preferred to, rather than end up as eaters of worlds as Sphene envisioned.

[Silren]

Yeah sure, as far as we know there could have been thousands or even millions of people memories in that database, but it's better just assume that everyone wanted to just die and get over it. After all we spoke to a few of them so that's fine, why bother with the rest, right? It is so realistic and credibile, even the reactions of the characters are so empathic that they seems to don't give a damn beside Erenville, which was the only one showing at least some kind of emotion, before accepting the cruel fate of his mother for the sake of this terrible and souless writing.

[Silren]

Meanwhile, you can continue to feel bad about the poor man and his wife. Maybe write a fanfic if you like.

DT story is already a teenage fanfic, there is no need asking for more.