Why not fixing NetCode instead of Graphical update?

[Daralii]

Something like a graphics update is immediately visible, which makes it easier to quickly catch someone's attention while marketing. It's also much, much easier than a gameplay and infrastructure overhaul, especially with how fundamentally terrible XIV's infrastructure has been since day 1 of 1.0.

[Tunda]

Something like a graphics update is immediately visible, which makes it easier to quickly catch someone's attention while marketing. It's also much, much easier than a gameplay and infrastructure overhaul, especially with how fundamentally terrible XIV's infrastructure has been since day 1 of 1.0.

I think they got enough resources after the pandemic to not change the gameplay but to reduce the lag between pressing ability and activate it.

I know it will cause overhaul of some code in the game..
but they did it in shadowbringer when they change ALL tanks and healers gameplay..

why not now?

[Sylvain]

I think they got enough resources after the pandemic to not change the gameplay but to reduce the lag between pressing ability and activate it.

You don't know that.

Do you know how much money is actually allocated to FF14? How much money is left after allowing ressources to what needs to be developped? (Future expansion, raid, jobs, music, art, events, etc etc etc). Maybe very little is left... Maybe they don't even have enough for everything they'd like to do... maybe they have a lot left which leads to the next question.

"How much would it cost". Do you know? We know it's a mess, we know it'd be "a lot", but how much "a lot".

I know it will cause overhaul of some code in the game..
but they did it in shadowbringer when they change ALL tanks and healers gameplay..
why not now?

Exactly, why?
Perhaps because that part was easier to fix?
Perhaps the matter was much more pressing and enough money was allowed then but it isn't anymore.
Perhaps there's a risk of making things worse from unsuspected interaction in the spaghetti code.

Or simply they feel it's good enough and that improving it further would just be a waste of money.

And yes, it can be a waste of money.

[Isala]

You don't know that.

Do you know how much money is actually allocated to FF14? How much money is left after allowing ressources to what needs to be developped? (Future expansion, raid, jobs, music, art, events, etc etc etc). Maybe very little is left... Maybe they don't even have enough for everything they'd like to do... maybe they have a lot left which leads to the next question.

"How much would it cost". Do you know? We know it's a mess, we know it'd be "a lot", but how much "a lot".

You know, while I understand the logistics of "You need money to fix the game", I'm failing to see how that's my problem as a customer. And after several expansions of the same excuses (1.0 spaghetti code, lack of resources, etc), I have no sympathy left for the condition they've left the game in. Leveling Picto during EA was a massive eye opener for just how terrible the net code is. Look at this skill you can't use while out of combat. Also, it's going to take an entire GCD plus for the game to realize you're in combat, AFTER you hit the mob.

And now I'm seeing poor Elezens in another thread, wearing helmets that just straight up delete their ears, while Viera... can't wear hats because of their ears?

And now with DT's obvious lack of polish, or direction, or, well, much of anything... Nope. Done with their excuses. Done with their lack of resources somehow being my problem as a consumer. Fix the damned game.

[cutestfox]

And now with DT's obvious lack of polish, or direction, or, well, much of anything... Nope. Done with their excuses. Done with their lack of resources somehow being my problem as a consumer. Fix the damned game.

It is honestly this.
Every companies goal is to make money. "Logically" the best thing any company can do is sell the cheapest product for the highest price possible
None of us here work for SE, none of us are the CEO- nobody here gets anything out of making excuses or reasons why it shouldn't be criticized or something should be given a pass

It's our single role as a consumer to continue pressuring them to improve, always

[Tunda]

It is honestly this.
Every companies goal is to make money. "Logically" the best thing any company can do is sell the cheapest product for the highest price possible
None of us here work for SE, none of us are the CEO- nobody here gets anything out of making excuses or reasons why it shouldn't be criticized or something should be given a pass

It's our single role as a consumer to continue pressuring them to improve, always

Dawntrail has 90 issues and 10 positives..
the idea that "they don't have money" is so silly and uneducated thing to say..

[Daralii]

It is honestly this.
Every companies goal is to make money. "Logically" the best thing any company can do is sell the cheapest product for the highest price possible
None of us here work for SE, none of us are the CEO- nobody here gets anything out of making excuses or reasons why it shouldn't be criticized or something should be given a pass

It's our single role as a consumer to continue pressuring them to improve, always

They're busy using XIV's income to make games that can't recoup their development costs. I don't think SE's had anything else they consider a success since the first game of the ∞-part FF7 sequel-remake series.

[Gilihere]

Ok, netcode is not the best if you don't live near a server but it aint that bad except if your routing is crap to begin with.

That said, unequivocally this:

They're busy using XIV's income to make games that can't recoup their development costs.

hell even uncle Yoshi tells us to go play other games (preferably SQE games and keep your ffxiv subs up).
As a business having a diverse portfolio is important, and lets not forget that all the money is pooled and redistributed accordingly. If I ever see news that SQE is refactoring the netcode and increasing the budget of FFXIV, I'd believe that they were really in the verge of bankrupcy tbh.

[Tunda]

They're busy using XIV's income to make games that can't recoup their development costs. I don't think SE's had anything else they consider a success since the first game of the ∞-part FF7 sequel-remake series.

wasting money on NFTs crap is very disappointed to see..
people who is making these choices are not even gamer.. looking for trends to waste money on project that will neve please anyone

[Tunda]

You don't know that.

Do you know how much money is actually allocated to FF14? How much money is left after allowing ressources to what needs to be developped? (Future expansion, raid, jobs, music, art, events, etc etc etc). Maybe very little is left... Maybe they don't even have enough for everything they'd like to do... maybe they have a lot left which leads to the next question.

"How much would it cost". Do you know? We know it's a mess, we know it'd be "a lot", but how much "a lot".



Exactly, why?
Perhaps because that part was easier to fix?
Perhaps the matter was much more pressing and enough money was allowed then but it isn't anymore.
Perhaps there's a risk of making things worse from unsuspected interaction in the spaghetti code.

Or simply they feel it's good enough and that improving it further would just be a waste of money.

And yes, it can be a waste of money.

1- Do you know how to read financial statements?

go so square enix financial statements in 2019 - 2020 - 2021 and read that or hire someone who can read that..

the game single handedly carry the whole company financially..

2- you don't have to be genius to read through it if you got a simple explanation
game is subscription base (12$)
game is making people buying their expansions (30$)
mog station
over 30 million player base.
If you know 1+1=2 you would know they make money enough to fix game netcode.