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  1. #11
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    SongOfTheWind's Avatar
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    Freja Heleh
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aquarys View Post
    Just want to clarify that I'm not defending the writing direction at all. I'm just trying to understand what happened with the story's writing.
    To me personally understanding this MSQ writing feels like trying to understand the meaning behind AI art. Cute, plain, repetitive, blurry, glossy, shiny, 7 fingers? oh, a body horror piece, ok. It’s cute again?
    Same value of your time and energy if you ask me.
    (3)

  2. #12
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    -Teria-'s Avatar
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    Teria Redfield
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aquarys View Post
    Just wondering, where do you see the credits for the writing done in FFXIV? I'm curious about who wrote what. I thoroughly enjoyed Werlyt, actually.

    Edit: I found this graphic?
    That's the one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I hope that's not the case.

    Yoshida needs to understand this:

    YOU
    CAN'T
    PLEASE
    EVERYONE

    The more you try to cater to literally everyone, the more you alienate a portion of the playerbase or incentivize the players to do in-fighting blaming each other for changes one doesn't like.
    It's true. You can't please everyone. But when you're pleasing barely anyone at all, maybe it's time to reevaluate.
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  3. #13
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I have posted this as well. I think it is a combo of story skippers and users who maybe leave off on a quest and come back to it after weeks/months.

    A better and less costly solution is using quest descriptions or perhaps expanding them to a full on lore recap. The emphasis should be on accessing story updates yourself vs writing a million extra lines of dialogue accounting for someone missing something.
    (3)
    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 07-12-2024 at 05:27 AM.

  4. #14
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    Katarina Malaguld
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    If you are skipping the story (which means you do not care about it), then why should the game cater to them at all? If I wanted to know anything about the story, I would watch it. If I realise in hindsight I should have been paying attention, there's always a dozen YouTube videos for any given story arc. This is a really poor argument and to me reads just like a half baked attempt at defending the writers.
    (4)
    Fishing is my religion and Lancetfish is my Satan.
    You don't have to spend months telling the world that you aren't gonna play that role.

  5. #15
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I skipped just about everything and watched an 11-minute Youtube video with a summary. Best decision I ever made. Normally, I follow the entire story in real time, because even at its lowest points, I've always been at least mildly interested in seeing where things go. With DT, I couldn't have cared any less even if I tried. This is the first time in the history of the game I've been bored to such a degree.
    (13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  6. #16
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I have posted this as well. I think it is a combo of story skippers and users who maybe leave off on a quest and come back to it after weeks/months.

    A better and less costly solution is using quest descriptions or perhaps expanding them to a full on lore recap. The emphasis should be on accessing story updates yourself vs writing a million extra lines of dialogue accounting for someone missing something.
    They don't even need to fill quest descriptions like that(unless it's done cleverly, like the 80 DRK quest) because the Unending Codex is a thing they added for exactly that purpose.
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  7. #17
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    First time I went through it, I let the story play out, didn't skip, took a few days at my pace.

    Second time I skipped it on an alt. Only real slowdowns during the second time was clearing dungeons or trials. Its something I could do in an afternoon.
    (0)

  8. #18
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    Fiorre Oberecht
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    Ramuh
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I hope that's not the case.

    Yoshida needs to understand this:

    YOU
    CAN'T
    PLEASE
    EVERYONE

    The more you try to cater to literally everyone, the more you alienate a portion of the playerbase or incentivize the players to do in-fighting blaming each other for changes one doesn't like.
    Also It doesnt make sense for them to "make it story skipper friendly" when YoshiP and themselves said that they want FFXIV to be an MMO that is known for its story telling. They want FFXIV to be an MMO but also to be a "Final Fantasy" game which are known for their story driven games. I appreciate OP for being positive about this but I dont really buy this explanation.
    (1)

  9. #19
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's carelessness, mixed with their usual inability to properly pace a story, combined with them trying to inorganically produce another flagship character.

    It's not catering to story skippers at all. You're trying to derive intent where there is none to be had.
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  10. #20
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    F'iel Tana
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aquarys View Post
    Just wondering, where do you see the credits for the writing done in FFXIV? I'm curious about who wrote what. I thoroughly enjoyed Werlyt, actually.

    Edit: I found this graphic?

    Lol, looks like this photo was taken while he was writing DT, made him fall asleep too!
    (0)

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