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    Quote Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun View Post
    Wuk Lamat is legendary for how much she is making weirdos online seethe. After this post I am blocking you. Genuinely get help dude, you are on here way too much.
    I would argue that its more legendary how people try to defend the bad voiceacting just because the VA is a part of a certain group.
    Or how it makes you guys insult other people or label them names. *Shrug*

    At the end the VA was a bad choice for a main charakter because the VA clearly lacks the skills.

    And judging by some more reading the VA also seems to be a bad person overall... makes it even more weird that you guys keeps defending? But I guess as long you are a part of a certain group you can behave like this... *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isseki View Post
    I would argue that its more legendary how people try to defend the bad voiceacting just because the VA is a part of a certain group.
    Or how it makes you guys insult other people or label them names. *Shrug*

    At the end the VA was a bad choice for a main charakter because the VA clearly lacks the skills.

    And judging by some more reading the VA also seems to be a bad person overall... makes it even more weird that you guys keeps defending? But I guess as long you are a part of a certain group you can behave like this... *shrugs*
    I didn’t even mention her “group”. I said I enjoyed the performance. The only person bringing her “group” into this is you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isseki View Post
    I would argue that its more legendary how people try to defend the bad voiceacting just because the VA is a part of a certain group.
    Or how it makes you guys insult other people or label them names. *Shrug*

    At the end the VA was a bad choice for a main charakter because the VA clearly lacks the skills.

    And judging by some more reading the VA also seems to be a bad person overall... makes it even more weird that you guys keeps defending? But I guess as long you are a part of a certain group you can behave like this... *shrugs*
    On Twitter I see a lot of people praising the voice actress (usually with certain flags next to their name), going so far as calling the performance "perfection", "life-altering", "Mind-blowing". It's quite bizarre to read as I have no clue how anyone with ears could listen to this performance and then have those conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    On Twitter I see a lot of people praising the voice actress (usually with certain flags next to their name), going so far as calling the performance "perfection", "life-altering", "Mind-blowing". It's quite bizarre to read as I have no clue how anyone with ears could listen to this performance and then have those conclusions.
    I genuinely believe it's virtue signaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    On Twitter I see a lot of people praising the voice actress (usually with certain flags next to their name), going so far as calling the performance "perfection", "life-altering", "Mind-blowing". It's quite bizarre to read as I have no clue how anyone with ears could listen to this performance and then have those conclusions.
    It's a coping mechanism. In their social bubble, the louder you yell something is true, the more likely it is that your reality will bend to conform to that truth.
    Much like what happens with a beloved main character from the critically acclaimed FFXIV expansion, Dawntrail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    On Twitter I see a lot of people praising the voice actress (usually with certain flags next to their name), going so far as calling the performance "perfection", "life-altering", "Mind-blowing". It's quite bizarre to read as I have no clue how anyone with ears could listen to this performance and then have those conclusions.
    And there's also people on that very same site being openly/blatantly transphobic toward the VA.

    I get it, you didn't like the voice and that's okay! This is a feedback thread, so we're gonna see people saying they either loved her voice, hated it, or were fine/indifferent about it... or is this thread now just a circlejerk on putting down others who liked her voice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    And there's also people on that very same site being openly/blatantly transphobic toward the VA.

    I get it, you didn't like the voice and that's okay! This is a feedback thread, so we're gonna see people saying they either loved her voice, hated it, or were fine/indifferent about it... or is this thread now just a circlejerk on putting down others who liked her voice?
    Quote Originally Posted by Petroglyph View Post
    this topic is really a minefield—it's not rare to see comments that are coming so close to mask off, and that's disappointing.

    Also if she got re-cast, that'd be pretty cool honestly. It's awesome to have one of my people in the seat of such an important role in one of my hobbies, but she's making something bad even worse. :/
    I think that's one of the main gripes for a lot of people regarding the choice to cast Sena: they're not allowed to be (validly) critical of the performance because anything they say is deflected on merit of her being who she is. What makes matters worse is that both sides will accuse one another of circlejerking the moment the discussion sways in a direction they don't like, positive or negative.

    That being said, I studied media, written and visual. I identify a certain way but I don't feel the need to brandish a flag or five on my profiles. Does that make me qualified enough to say some opinions are wrong?

    Objectively speaking, many times Sena's delivery falls flat - it doesn't matter if there was a director to step in, a professional VA would be able to tell by themselves. The people praising her feel disingenous but overly loving, akin to a parent putting a fingerpainted artwork on the fridge.

    Sena however, is not a child to be coddled. She got paid money for this, while there were probably better VAs lined up. Perhaps with a similar background as her. Perhaps VAs who better embodied the spirit or heritage of Wuk Lamat's character design.

    It doesn't matter, this is what we got. This is who was paid to be the face of this expansion, and her performance soils the experience for many who don't even know the person behind the character.
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    If people can keep it to just the performance, then it's fine in my eyes. If people automatically accuse others of being a bigot despite no bigotry being found in their opinion, then you can disregard those posts because they're just posting in bad faith. That said, there have been (quite recently, two blatant ones to be exact) transphobic comments made in this thread and those do no favours for the "I dislike Wuk Lamat's English voice" crowd as it'll make anyone looking in at a quick glance assume "oh that must be why" if they see those kinds of posts (number of likes on those kinds of posts really don't help, either). These people you should call out if you don't want to be associated with them at all just for sharing the same opinion on voice performance (but not for the same reasons).

    Like I said, criticism and feedback is a good thing. I just don't see the good in needlessly putting others down for simply having a different opinion. That's why I said circlejerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isseki View Post
    I would argue that its more legendary how people try to defend the bad voiceacting just because the VA is a part of a certain group.
    Or how it makes you guys insult other people or label them names. *Shrug*

    At the end the VA was a bad choice for a main charakter because the VA clearly lacks the skills.

    And judging by some more reading the VA also seems to be a bad person overall... makes it even more weird that you guys keeps defending? But I guess as long you are a part of a certain group you can behave like this... *shrugs*
    you can thank the global elites for fracturing western society (they got scared after occupy wallstreet). they are terrified when they see caucasians, people of color, lgbtqia++, etc united in a singular purpose against them. they pushed idpol super hard and now we are in a situation where tribalism is running wild
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