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  1. #1461
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    Lucien Valeriant
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    Twintania
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    Zero was just a trial run for Wuk Lamat. They both take a similar role in the story and push other characters to the side. Zero wasn't as bad purely because she had less content. If she had a full expansion people would be just as annoyed.
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  2. #1462
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    Regana Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbolt View Post
    Zero was just a trial run for Wuk Lamat. They both take a similar role in the story and push other characters to the side. Zero wasn't as bad purely because she had less content. If she had a full expansion people would be just as annoyed.
    Nah, I don't think so.
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  3. #1463
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    Aure Rainn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbolt View Post
    Zero was just a trial run for Wuk Lamat. They both take a similar role in the story and push other characters to the side. Zero wasn't as bad purely because she had less content. If she had a full expansion people would be just as annoyed.
    Zero had less content and more character development, went from apathetic non-character into someone looking brightly towards the future with some established backstory. I would've infinitely enjoyed Zero more. Actually, crazy how she gets flashbacks and backstory despite the little time afforded to her but nothing like that for Wuk Lamat, all tell no show.
    Also worst part about those patches was Jullus' voice actor, what even happened to him?
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  4. #1464
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    Ayatane Wolfblade
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    Drinking game for every time taco cat says we in the last trial and cs after.
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  5. #1465
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    Its funny that all the wuk lamat defenders are hrothgar lol you just like her because furry you can relate to.

    “Omg she is like me! My queeen. Must defend with my LIFE!”

    Sorry but that doesnt make her a good character. She is awful. I am a miqo’te but there is some miqo’te that even I find annoying and awful I wouldn’t defend.
    I feel bad for fem Hrothgar their lore representative is one of the worst main characters we have ever got.
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  6. #1466
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I feel bad for fem Hrothgar their lore representative is one of the worst main characters we have ever got.
    Yeah imagine if it had been some cool bozja queen. Even the mural hrothgar looked better than what they got.
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  7. #1467
    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Also, Krile and G'raha, what? Don't care enough about us to dynamis their way back into the arena, too? G'raha?

    And, while I see the parallels of both being queens with Wuk Lamat, G'raha and Krile have their connections to Sphene that could have been expounded upon and used too.
    Krile is literally one of her people, having been born in Alexanrdria. And G'raha was a ruler who had to guide his people through an apocalypse on a dying world for a century, which arguably means Sphene should have related to him more than Wuk Lamat.
    The bonding and writing spotlight should have been spread around.
    Exactly this! G’raha went through the exact thing but didnt get to do much. But they throw the annoying character in front of us constantly. Who even wanted this?

    People go on about “we are just there to mentor” So we mentor by just being in the background till the last fight where we do all the work then still dont get credit for it? But also get asked to stay there because even Woke Lapoop knows she is a failure without us or Koana. How are they expecting her to help raise the little guy when she cant even take care of herself or her people.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 07-11-2024 at 01:52 AM.

  8. #1468
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I don't want her to just disappear. I want the satisfaction of seeing her die to an enemy that I alone will kill with ease afterwards. It's not like other NPCs haven't died to a surprise attack before.
    I think it would be more amusing seeing her being chased off a cliff by an alpaca she's afraid of and dying from fall damage.
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  9. #1469
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Wuk Lamat is as awesome character. Learns from her failures and she's got a cute personality! Love me some Wuk Lamat!!
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  10. #1470
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Also, Krile and G'raha, what? Don't care enough about us to dynamis their way back into the arena, too? G'raha?

    And, while I see the parallels of both being queens with Wuk Lamat, G'raha and Krile have their connections to Sphene that could have been expounded upon and used too.
    Krile is literally one of her people, having been born in Alexanrdria. And G'raha was a ruler who had to guide his people through an apocalypse on a dying world for a century, which arguably means Sphene should have related to him more than Wuk Lamat.
    The bonding and writing spotlight should have been spread around.
    Amen to this.

    Honestly, the way Wuk Lamat forcefully stays front and center in this story seems like a pointed offensive against player mindsets. It's like they are attempting to smash people's conception that the WoL is the main character of FFXIV by giving us this NPC who has the mask of being a main character, but none of what actually sells a main character.

    Like her leaping into the fight to help WoL is practially a countdown to ending the fight, as much damage as she's doing/buffing the WoL to do, and it happens in the latter half of the fight... When Sphene was already on a back foot.

    But I guess this trend of the WoL, "needing help" started back in Shadowbringers, and Shadowbringers was so successful they've sought to copy it twice now with how end trial fights resolve. Azem Stone into 8 man WoL team into villain nearly beats them with his big attack, into the WoL getting hypercharged by powers outside of the fight.

    In Hades's fight, it was the Lightwarden light combining with The Blessing Light to both shield and increase damage from the WoL team. In Endwalker it's the Prayer bubble from the Scions that save WoL from Meteion's death surge of Dynamis. In Dawntrail... WoL is beating Sphene like a redheaded stepchild, and Wuk Lamat steps in anyway, super buffed, super buffing WoL and it goes from a murder to, "Stop, stop, she's already dead!"
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