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  1. #111
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    Cutest Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    You say excuses, I say applying logic. There is absolutely no reason they wouldn't take advantage of the new facial rigging if it had been available in time, especially considering how often food comes up in the MSQ. They didn't. You can get mad, or you can think about why. And the age-old "SE is just lazy" story is just as speculative while offering no shred of logic.

    I know "outrage before reason" is just how the internet is, but if people stopped getting mad as their first response, it'd be so much easier to take these forums seriously.
    That so called "logic" falls apart immediately when you apply it to any aspect of this game. You can think of a million ways that this game would be easily improved, and a million ways why "they didn't do it already".
    Meaningless speculation is useless, the only thing which is of any concern is what's delivered, and what we have here now.
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  2. #112
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You'd have a point if the counter points were just people commenting on their own race and not a-holes gatekeeping feedback that doesn't concern them.
    No one is "Gatekeeping" anything, since no one here can actually hinder another person from posting.
    Spare me the Social Media nonsense buzzwords.

    Fact is: I don't want the old models back. I don't want the old lighting back.
    I like the new models and I am looking forward to SE actually capitalizing on their capabilities (kind of a bummer that they don't, chars even have actually rigged tongues now Oo).

    SE can go ham in terms of adding more options, I'll never be against more variety but I DO NOT WANT CHANGES to what is there right just to please a few people that are obsessed. And I am certain that I am not alone with this sentiment.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    You say excuses, I say applying logic. There is absolutely no reason they wouldn't take advantage of the new facial rigging if it had been available in time, especially considering how often food comes up in the MSQ.
    There is another theory: SE wants to introduce things in a more gradual way.
    Right now some things about the models changed, there is no denying that. By sticking to the old animations for now, SE doesn't exacerbate the perception of "everything changed OMG where is my character!"

    I vividly remember being quite displeased not just with the new model of my Draenei but specifically her new animations that changed her character much more than any model could.

    If people are raging about some mouth being a few mm shorter, imagine them raging against new animation work that goes completely against their imagined WOL behavior.

    Not sure if SE will ever have the courage to go ham with animations for our WoL during MSQ or whether they restrict themselves to optional emotes and NPCs.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 07-10-2024 at 04:47 AM.

  3. #113
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    xivYuiM's Avatar
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    Yui Moriyama
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesandra View Post
    We never asked to destroy the game like this, so many years being so perfectly good and now is pure sad and irritating to play with these cartoonish, foolish, emotionless and lifeless models

    Why?
    New models are better and absolutely close enough to the old ones to pass as "the same character". 98% of people wouldn't notice if you changed details of their character without telling them. I have been using the same moonie face 3 since 2014 and, while it was weird to see it changed to the new model for the first hour or so, I really can't get over how much better the characters look now. Especially the eyes. New models are 10/10.
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  4. #114
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutestfox View Post
    That so called "logic" falls apart immediately when you apply it to any aspect of this game. You can think of a million ways that this game would be easily improved, and a million ways why "they didn't do it already".
    Meaningless speculation is useless, the only thing which is of any concern is what's delivered, and what we have here now.
    I freely mention my complaints when relevant, but when there's a simple and fairly obvious reason for something, I make note of that too. What can I say, I have more important things to get mad about than a video game. Meaningless outrage is as useless as meaningless speculation, it just requires less thought.
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  5. #115
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    Sophia Bettencourt
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    i think they need to touch the models up some more, not just smooth them out and make them shiny
    add actual tone to them and more hairstyles unique to them, more options overall. and better eyebrows.
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  6. #116
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alesandra View Post
    We never asked to destroy the game like this, so many years being so perfectly good and now is pure sad and irritating to play with these cartoonish, foolish, emotionless and lifeless models

    Why?
    Give me back my chocolate, I prefer the other one there...
    Hmm...
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    Still Useless... To have so many Commendations in 2024

  7. #117
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    Cheap Shot
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    Balmung
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    The thing I’m not getting is, if so many of you are telling others that the changes are so little and subtle that you don’t even notice them, then why be so hostile to people who want a few more subtle changes to recapture some of their original look? You didn’t notice or care about the differences so why would you notice or care about more? The lighting and some of the textures are improved. Your characters are still going to look “better”.

    Bemoaning people complaining that they were attached to the features they spent years with sounds a bit silly coming from people acting attached to features they’ve spent a week with.
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  8. #118
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    if the old textures were optional and dont affect people who like them, i see no harm in giving them back to players who want them

    I get it, i was attached to face 4 on miqo but it isn't as pretty now so I swapped faces
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  9. #119
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    Olyvar Queen
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I'm very happy with my new model.
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  10. #120
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alesandra View Post
    We never asked to destroy the game like this, so many years being so perfectly good and now is pure sad and irritating to play with these cartoonish, foolish, emotionless and lifeless models

    Why?
    They really could have done better.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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