Even our content creators cannot pretend to like the trashy writings of Dawntrail.

[Jojoya]

Trying to give special weight to content creator statements is pointless.

If they're expressing their opinion as a player, it's no better than an opinion expressed by any other player. Not every player is looking for the same game experience.

If they're expressing their opinion as a content creator, it's been influenced by their need to appeal to what their audience expects to hear more often than not. It may not accurately reflect their personal opinion.

Zepla largely has been positive for a majority of her career, which goes back to Heavensward. It is not an argument to say her opinion is not valuable respective to the game, as she largely became more negative towards it during EW patch content, which received mixed reception.

As for DT, I am sure you have seen the large number of threads here detailing people being upset with the direction of the game. Seeing someone such as Zepla being upset at the game is just evidence to suggest the game is going into a period of regression. If, for any reason, you are unable to come to your own conclusion related to DT without the input of a specific figure, that leads me to believe you are more of a follower, a sheep, than someone with the agency to come up with their own opinions regarding a specific product you presumably enjoy. I pity you if this is the case.

Didn't Zepla also say that she realized during the break she took from the game during EW that most of her problem had been burnout after playing the game for 6+ years and the expansion wasn't as bad as she originally made it sound?

Seeing someone like Zepla being upset means nothing. She's not the only one that's been playing that long. There are long time players still happy with the game. There are long time players that aren't.

[ZavosEsperian]

Seeing someone like Zepla being upset means nothing. She's not the only one that's been playing that long. There are long time players still happy with the game. There are long time players that aren't.

Yoshi-P himself thanked Zepla for her video that was critical of Endwalker at the media tour which was specifically targeting the lack of content within Endwalker's patch content. It is clear she has more clout with the developers do than you do defending their honor on the forums.

[Jojoya]

Yoshi-P himself thanked Zepla for her video that was critical of Endwalker at the media tour which was specifically targeting the lack of content within Endwalker's patch content. It is clear she has more clout with the developers do than you do defending their honor on the forums.

And you think other content creators weren't also thanked for their own videos?

If he thinks so much of her opinions about the game, it's strange she didn't get to have one of the one-on-one interviews that Preach, Quazii and a few other content creators got to have with YoshiP.

I'm not here trying to defend anyone's honor. I'm saying that it's silly to sit there licking the feet of any content creator when there are hundreds of thousands of players that have their opinions that are just as valid as the opinion of someone who streams or posts videos online.

[Gortys]

Yoshi-P himself thanked Zepla for her video that was critical of Endwalker at the media tour which was specifically targeting the lack of content within Endwalker's patch content. It is clear she has more clout with the developers do than you do defending their honor on the forums.

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I can say that Zepla got me into this game by saying the community was nothing like WoW's etc, but then as soon as she got the attention of Preach, Asmongold, etc she suddenly did a 180. I'm sure other life events added to that, but she comes off as hypocritical to a lot of people now. I don't even have a problem with Preach or Asmongold because at least they are consistent.

And for those who think LlamaTodd is Mr Positive while Asmongold is some evil entity? LlamaTodd has been trying to kiss up to OTK and loves Tektone who does a podcast with Asmon. Tektone is always involved in drama of some sort.

[AnotherHighlander]

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I can say that Zepla got me into this game by saying the community was nothing like WoW's etc, but then as soon as she got the attention of Preach, Asmongold, etc she suddenly did a 180. I'm sure other life events added to that, but she comes off as hypocritical to a lot of people now. I don't even have a problem with Preach or Asmongold because at least they are consistent.

Why should we respect FF14 when FF14 disrespects everyone's intelligence by giving us a Teletubbies-tier story with braindead jobs that a toddler can execute? And all the lies from Yoshi P over the years? Lol?

[Gortys]

Why should we respect FF14 when FF14 disrespects everyone's intelligence by giving us a Teletubbies-tier story with braindead jobs that a toddler can execute? And all the lies from Yoshi P over the years? Lol?

Is your reading comprehension this bad? Where in talking about Zepla and other creators did I say anything about this expansion and my opinion of said expansion? We are discussing content creators. There are other threads where players complain (including myself) about the MSQ.

[HighlanderClone]

Is your reading comprehension this bad? Where in talking about Zepla and other creators did I say anything about this expansion and my opinion of said expansion? We are discussing content creators. There are other threads where where players complain (including myself) about the MSQ.

Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I thought you are supposed to give praise before delivering a harsh critique on me. Let me rephrase what you said for you.

BTW, Highlander, you are so sexy and handsome. I love your muscular physique and your avant garde styling choice of shaving off your eyebrows. Quite daring really! Also, your manly, sexy deep voice is just so... intoxicating! I love it! There's just one little problem I have, you see... I'm just wondering if you could go back and re-read what I said... I'm not criticizing your reading comprehension! Definitely not! I just thought maybe my point got lost in translation, or some other such issue and perhaps we can find a common ground... and yeah you're so sexy and handsome hahaha, I love your handsome smile

[Gortys]

I thought you are supposed to give praise before delivering a harsh critique on me. Let me rephrase what you said for you.

I'm not a manager. But honestly, what you wrote is what a manager, like YoshiP, would write. Not all of us, including Zepla, are managers.

[ZavosEsperian]

Every time she and her community repeat this they conveniently leave out that they asked her to try to be better about her phrasing. I watched her play yesterday and she was dipping back into some really harsh phrasing again so I guess she forgot that part.
Also, I think YoshiP is a very nice person and a good manager. Managers are taught to give praise before delivering a negative or harsh critique. She doesn't understand that his real message was "We found your messaging to be too harsh and not well articulated. We would appreciate critiques to be done in a more respectful manner."

I am going to assume when you say "harsh phrasing" you mean critical of the game. I have seen and heard many people go off about how bad DT is and based on what she was saying yesterday (I did catch some of it, but not much) she was rather tame with her criticisms compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

Brutal honesty tends to illustrate a point better than treating them with kid gloves in the world of content creation. People may view Zepla as inconsistent, especially where FFXIV is concerned, but I would argue there has been a shift in the overall quality with the game itself starting in EW. As such, the game changed first so it isn't a surprise that Zepla herself changed in attitude. And her sentiment is echoed throughout the forums as of late, particularly with the MSQ.

I admittedly feel for her a bit, as the game that started her career, let alone loved, has slowly withered and rotted into the state that it is now in. It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that while others would gladly consume the rotting game, oblivious (or perhaps aware) to it rotting, and saying "Everything is fine it is you who is wrong!" I have been around a long time myself and I can understand why she says "The game is unrecognizable."

But you do you. You can praise and consume a game that is rotting from the inside out if you want to, just don't be surprised if people come after you for consuming something that is rotting.

[Gortys]

I am going to assume when you say "harsh phrasing" you mean critical of the game. I have seen and heard many people go off about how bad DT is and based on what she was saying yesterday (I did catch some of it, but not much) she was rather tame with her criticisms compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

Brutal honesty tends to illustrate a point better than treating them with kid gloves in the world of content creation. People may view Zepla as inconsistent, especially where FFXIV is concerned, but I would argue there has been a shift in the overall quality with the game itself starting in EW. As such, the game changed first so it isn't a surprise that Zepla herself changed in attitude. And her sentiment is echoed throughout the forums as of late, particularly with the MSQ.

I admittedly feel for her a bit, as the game that started her career, let alone loved, has slowly withered and rotted into the state that it is now in. It is rather sad to see her have to come to terms with that while others would gladly consume the rotting game, oblivious (or perhaps aware) to it rotting, and saying "Everything is fine it is you who is wrong!" I have been around a long time myself and I can understand why she says "The game is unrecognizable."

But you do you. You can praise and consume a game that is rotting from the inside out if you want to, just don't be surprised if people come after you for consuming something that is rotting.

If you want to assume that "harsh phrasing" means being critical, then that is on you. In fact, you make a LOT of assumptions here. We are discussing content creators and not reviewing the game, but you are mixing the 2. It is easy to do when one gets their feelings involved obviously.

I didn't watch her VoD and only caught the middle to the end of her stream. She was really holding it together even though obviously uncomfortable. I had to "self-correct" and remind myself that we unexpectedly fought Zodiark at lvl 83 last expansion. But the fact that I could predict this isn't necessarily good either.

Zepla got me into the game and I think she really wants to be on par with someone like Preach more than Asmongold. The difference is Preach actually employs people to help him and some of that is writing. I don't know if she does the same, but I get the impression she tries to do it all herself.

Essentially all critiques are not equal. Brutal honesty at the moment is noticed more easily for sure, but often it is just as easily discarded by others whether positive or negative. And calling something "garbage" as Asmon and others may do isn't as helpful as some of the more lengthy and thoughtful posts on this forum - such as HighlanderClone's.