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  1. #6521
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    I don't find it funny that the people who are part of the Healers Strike are going out of their way to grief people. Disgusting behavior IMO.
    They aren't.

    Strikers can't grief ppl because striking means not playing healer in group content so if a healer is griefing people in group content by nature they aren't a striker.

    Thank you for not spreading false information.
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  2. #6522
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    Matthius Abysswalker
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    Alpha
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I don't really play healer so not well versed in this topic, would swapping some of the extra heals for more dps spells work? I assume a potency rework may be needed if so.
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  3. #6523
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Don’t feed the troll, guys. They’re fat enough as-is from how well they’ve eaten.

    (metaphorically not physically)
    (6)

  4. #6524
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Don’t feed the troll, guys. They’re fat enough as-is from how well they’ve eaten.

    (metaphorically not physically)
    Everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Got it.
    (0)

  5. #6525
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    Saraide Derosa
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    I think we should keep this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  6. #6526
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    WHM’s problem is it brings nothing to the table

    AST is a stronger pure healer than WHM and both pure healers pale in comparison to the shield healers in terms of the type or healing that 14 rewards. Yet WHM has nothing to compensate this. Chunky pure healing is near worthless in this game and hilariously SCH can now do it better than WHM anyway. It has no non damage utility (like expedience or smudge) it has no buffs, its mitigation is weak and wonky and its damage rarely goes above anything besides SGE except fights with a large amount of downtime

    Basically the problem is WHM is playing a different game. Misery being neutral sorta fixed this by making lilys proxy oGCD’s but since WHM brings nothing to the table besides its raw healing power it just doesn’t bring anything to the raid because the style of “plenary asylum temperance cure 3” healing just doesn’t exist in this game

    Medica is near redundant because medica 2 only needs to tick once to do more healing than medica 1, cure 2 should just upgrade from cure 1, aquaveil and bension should just be one button and you could bake plenary into some combo of temperance, asylum and just the default potency of your skills. That frees up 4 buttons
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  7. #6527
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    They aren't.

    Strikers can't grief ppl because striking means not playing healer in group content so if a healer is griefing people in group content by nature they aren't a striker.

    Thank you for not spreading false information.
    People strike in different ways. People going into dungeons and not healing or doing their job are on your side.
    (1)

  8. #6528
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Also would it literally kill you to pretend to engage with us with like you actually want to hear our opinions

    You came in here guns blazing saying we are saying fuck controller, then suddenly we are also elitist raiders and that we’ve also lost respect of every other player

    Would it kill you to just respond to us without peppering everything with crap like that
    (10)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #6529
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHM’s problem is it brings nothing to the table

    AST is a stronger pure healer than WHM and both pure healers pale in comparison to the shield healers in terms of the type or healing that 14 rewards. Yet WHM has nothing to compensate this. Chunky pure healing is near worthless in this game and hilariously SCH can now do it better than WHM anyway. It has no non damage utility (like expedience or smudge) it has no buffs, its mitigation is weak and wonky and its damage rarely goes above anything besides SGE except fights with a large amount of downtime

    Basically the problem is WHM is playing a different game. Misery being neutral sorta fixed this by making lilys proxy oGCD’s but since WHM brings nothing to the table besides its raw healing power it just doesn’t bring anything to the raid because the style of “plenary asylum temperance cure 3” healing just doesn’t exist in this game

    Medica is near redundant because medica 2 only needs to tick once to do more healing than medica 1, cure 2 should just upgrade from cure 1, aquaveil and bension should just be one button and you could bake plenary into some combo of temperance, asylum and just the default potency of your skills. That frees up 4 buttons
    I'm seeing a potential problem here for the pro Healer Strike people. They don't care at all about the little guy and are all elitist raiders.
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  10. #6530
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    I'm seeing a potential problem here for the pro Healer Strike people. They don't care at all about the little guy and are all elitist raiders.
    Once again

    1) respond to our arguments
    2) I’m sorry I can’t be an elitist raider, Patricia 14 posts ago told me I was a garbage casual. If you wanna throw around ad hominem attacks please coordinate with the other people so you all hit us with the same ad hominem
    (11)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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