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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    The most confusing issue with Alexandria is not the memories, but souls.

    We see that they have technology to capture souls.

    What happens then when person with regulator "dies"?

    Does:

    1. The original soul goes back to aetherial sea? If so, they would run out of souls quickly and after the ending, leaving Solution 9 in current state with people still using regulators makes this very questionable morally.

    2. Original soul is captured by regulator. But then, why fresh soul is needed? Why not use original soul and memories and put them back into the old body?

    Why the process of separating soul from memories is done at all? To move "legally dead" to Endless area and use purified souls as spares?

    Why not use original souls for Endless without memory purification?

    If Endless don't need souls then the whole premise of the story is bogus, as this would result in surplus of souls.
    From my understanding the used soul is sent to Origenics for cleaning and repackaging while a new soul is activated. Just holding the same soul in might not work as this seems like a rebirth type of thing. The act of getting a new soul might be how they are bringing themselves back from death, so just finding away to hold in the original soul wouldn't work. They also use multiple souls at once for powerups. Without the Endless, they shouldn't run out of souls given they recycle them. The issue they were running into with the Endless was that they were attempting to maintain every person that ever existed for thousands of years, from their medieval age to their cybertech age, that's why some people are dressed like Ye Olden Days while others are dressed cyberpunkish. Not letting a single person on your planet go back into the aetherial sea for thousands of years meant they were constantly pulling from a system without ever putting anything back into it which is how they tapped the well dry on living energy for their shard and was going to move on to other shards.

    What doesn't make sense though is Sphene's unwillingness to let us help her. There was likely a way to sustain their memories without the use of soul aether and there was no pressing need to drain the Source RIGHT NOW as the memories could live in the cloud for centuries without fading. She could have always agreed to let us research the matter and get back to attempting to murder the lot of us if and when we couldn't find a solution. Knowing it made no sense that a person with her personality would agree to cooperation first, they threw in another handwave of "oh, the program is controlling her mind and making her act like that." She gave Zoraal's dumb plan 30 years, we can't get three weeks? And why is that program not controlling Cachiua's mind as she stands there and behaves counter to it's every imperative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Isn’t that literally the exact thing that happened though? The Cahcuia we meet is an AI recreation and not the ‘real deal’. The reason she was able to subvert her programming and ‘go off script’ as it were was likely due to her strong desire for discovery and adventure. It couldn’t reconcile the ‘Cahcuia’ data telling her to set off into the world with the ‘Endless’ data telling her to stay there and follow her programmed route. Leading to her realising that she can’t be ‘the genuine Cahcuia’; not like that.

    It’s not even so much that she insists on her own ‘destruction’. She simply wants her soul to be able to return to the aetherial sea to be born again, seeking new discoveries in another life etc. If she remained as an Endless she’d be trapped in Living Memory for the rest of eternity, feeding off repurposed dead souls to sustain herself. Which would probably be even more torturous than going back to the natural cycle.
    No, that's not what happened. The Cahcuia we meet is made up of the Cahcuia memory aether that came from Cahcuia's body and was separated from Cahcuia's soul and grafted onto someone else's soul. The one and only time we hear about any AI is when we're handwaving away Sphene's sudden and ridiculous personality change because it's time for the final dungeon and don't nobody got time for politics anymore. The AI is never mentioned again and we don't see any program doing anything or controlling anything. Also, if these people are data and not memory aether, the absolute need for soul aether makes no sense. We could just run the entire lot of them inside VR and be done. It's only because they are made of memory aether does the need for soul aether make any sense.
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    Last edited by Lady_Silvermoon; 07-08-2024 at 08:24 PM.