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    Quote 引用元:TheMightyMollusk 投稿を閲覧
    In gameplay terms, it's simply not feasible to ask every single person, even among the, at most, hundred or so that were active in Living Memory. In story terms, we still had to deal with Sphene trying to initiate interdimensional fusion, so we didn't have time. (Yes, I know, the game's time scale moves as fast as we complete quests, not on any actual visible timer outside of instanced duties. Story-wise, though, we still had that timer, it just wasn't visible to us as players.)



    No, my point has been the same either way; There was no other choice. If they're alive, they're complicit, because it's made clear they all knew they were consuming souls; if they're not alive, it doesn't matter. Trying to reframe my arguments doesn't actually change them.



    The difference is that the peoples in Ultima Thule aren't consuming other dimensions to sustain their existence. That's kind of a big deal.

    Yes, the original Omicrons did conquer and assimilate other worlds, and they're all dead now. We could argue whether the recreated ones in UT deserved a second chance, but that seems like a separate discussion.



    Again: If they're alive, they're complicit, and if they're not, they're parts of a genocidal machine. There was no shift.

    You didn't really answer my question. How can something that's not alive be genocidal? A machine doesn't have any concept of such a thing. I think you really need to pick one argument and stick to it because your arguments aren't compatible.

    Also, calling them all complicit is odd. No matter what country you live in IRL, it has undoubtedly been responsible for some manner of atrocity in it's history. Are you complicit in that because you directly or indirectly benefit from being a citizen of that country?

    It's generally accepted that citizens under a nation, state, sovereign, whatever aren't intrinsically complicit with any acts the ruling body or system they live under commit, doubly so in situations where they seemingly don't have much of a choice in the matter. The Endless we see in the final zone weren't going around killing people and taking their souls, so I'd say your argument falls flat here as well.
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