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  1. #1211
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    AmorfaVex's Avatar
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    Jack Garlund
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Will we be able to choose between Tank Wuk Lamat and DPS Wuk Lamat or will DPS Wuk Lamat be the new 8.0 job?
    The Wuk Lamat class will have all other classes powers....only better.
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  2. #1212
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    Rannie's Avatar
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Faerie
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    I actually keep trying to think up worse characters than her... you know like Bella Swan, Kyle Ren, Rey Palpatine ,(she ain't no Skywalker in my eyes), Anakin Skywalker and I just can't seem to see them as worse than her...
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  3. #1213
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I actually keep trying to think up worse characters than her... you know like Bella Swan, Kyle Ren, Rey Palpatine ,(she ain't no Skywalker in my eyes), Anakin Skywalker and I just can't seem to see them as worse than her...
    Anakin Skywalker is edgekino though, don't lump him in with those losers.
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  4. #1214
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    Lio Diateles
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    I don't truly have hope for the immediate future of the narrative and will at least take a heavy step back, and see if I even still care later on.
    But for the case they pull the cart out of the mud again, my one solace is that at least they didn't ruin one of the places I actually cared about and wanted to go to. This whole location was trying way too hard to copy the real world for me, just with cats and lizards instead of people more recognisable as human(-like). Completely regardless of how "culturally sensitive" or not it was, and where one'd stand politically, for me it's simply not what I was interested in, coming from all the cool locations we had in prior content. Inspiration is fine, yeah. We've always had that. But not plain copies. E.g. speaking of wild west locations: I'd always found Ul'dah's mix of desert bartering culture and Western frontier-style ruthless capitalism with mining, plus its very own identity, really fun and inspired. One can see some building blocks, but it's an unexpected blend, it's not just those elements, and in the end Ul'dah is simply Ul'dah.
    I feel like a lot of creativity got lost along the way there. I mean, I was okay with the concept in principle. If the story had been good, I wouldn't have said anything. But it wasn't.

    But maybe if, in a few months or years, someone wants to write something again that I'll be interested in, it won't have the mark, "We can't do that, we already did that in Dawntrail." That's... a very small comfort, but it is one.
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  5. #1215
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    Rannie's Avatar
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Anakin Skywalker is edgekino though, don't lump him in with those losers.
    Anakin Skywalker was a whiney brat who hated "sand"
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  6. #1216
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Anakin Skywalker was a whiney brat who hated "sand"
    He killed younglings! I grew up with the prequels though, so I'm probably biased. He's awesome, mostly in episode 3 and Hayden is a very nice actor who really cares about the role.
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  7. #1217
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Anakin Skywalker was a whiney brat who hated "sand"
    That was another time back then though. 2002 was a year were that was ok and the point of Anakin was that he was a brat who thought he was a bigger number and far wiser then he actually was. That was his whole tragedy. Having his naive mindset broken and being unmade.
    Back then that was fine.
    It was a time were reign of fire, arac attack and ghost ship were released, between the 90s cringe and „modern“ story telling.


    Rey for example was just a Mary sue and bad writing and Wuk Lamat (while not as bad) is far more near her then Anakin.
    Wuk Lamat is an old cringe trope in a setting were she doesn‘t belong.

    I won‘t stay for this Anakin slander. >
    (13)

  8. #1218
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    Rannie's Avatar
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    Rannie Lfey
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    I don't remember that crap being ok even in 2002 he was memed back then and badly for how bad the character was as well as the directions he was given. The kid who played young anakin never worked again and got litteral hate mail.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 07-08-2024 at 04:17 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  9. #1219
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    Voidmage's Avatar
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I don't remember that crap being ok even in 2002 he was memed back then and badly for how bad the character was as well as the directions he was given. The kid who played young anakin never worked again and got litteral hate mail.
    Eh I don‘t remember the hate being that bad back then, at least not in my country. But that was before social media. But I believe you in this one.

    Anyway back on topic.
    What I‘m trying to say is that the character depends on the setting.
    Stupid action hero tropes are fine for example a Han Solo.
    Wuk Lamat though is a trope in a fantasy setting with normaly more mature writing.
    The DT setting bend’s backwards to try to have her fit whereas stuff like Hildebrand was normally a self contained story.

    She would have been fine in another game as the main character, maybe even another final fantasy.
    Even tactics advance was darker and more mature.
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    Last edited by Voidmage; 07-08-2024 at 04:36 PM.

  10. #1220
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    Lugubrious Pan
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Anakin Skywalker was a whiney brat who hated "sand"
    Dude, sand sucks. Why do you hate relatable villains? It is coarse, rough and irritating and it does get everywhere. I don't think there's a more relatable line in all of Star Wars than that one.
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