The forum has been too much negativities lately

[Lyndina]

I think its a good sign that there is "negativity". People express their concerns about the game some of us play 10 years or longer and we want to continue having fun in it. I really was at a brakepoint after that mess of the Msq, which has (for me) the most pull factor into ff14. If i hadnt payed for a 6 month sub right before DT came out i would have quitted for good. Theres no Use sticking around in a game that you dont like anymore. But in the end the fun with my guildmates, or the people i do roleplay with kept me here. Did the first trial in Savage today and had so much fun in it...that was the real spirit of this game. The community. However...cant guarantee if i stick if Wookie is forced at me in the coming story bits.

[aquarys]

I think its a good sign that there is "negativity". People express their concerns about the game some of us play 10 years or longer and we want to continue having fun in it. I really was at a brakepoint after that mess of the Msq, which has (for me) the most pull factor into ff14. If i hadnt payed for a 6 month sub right before DT came out i would have quitted for good. Theres no Use sticking around in a game that you dont like anymore. But in the end the fun with my guildmates, or the people i do roleplay with kept me here. Did the first trial in Savage today and had so much fun in it...that was the real spirit of this game. The community. However...cant guarantee if i stick if Wookie is forced at me in the coming story bits.

That's fine that people have their own opinions. But there are some people who legitimately like the expansion's story, and when people say that the expac is objectively bad, it's dismissive to the fact that some stories just don't appeal to certain people. Each expansion for FFXIV has its own theme and direction, and they cannot please everyone.

Edit: What would be more constructive is if people said "to me, this character doesn't appeal to me in this way"... etc. instead of saying "this character is written in an actually objectively bad way".

[Malthir]

That's fine that people have their own opinions. But there are some people who legitimately like the expansion's story, and when people say that the expac is objectively bad, it's dismissive to the fact that some stories just don't appeal to certain people. Each expansion for FFXIV has its own theme and direction, and they cannot please everyone.

Edit: What would be more constructive is if people said "to me, this character doesn't appeal to me in this way"... etc. instead of saying "this character is written in an actually objectively bad way".

Something can be objectively bad from a writing point of view and you can still enjoy it. I love cheesy hallmark romance movies, they are terribly written, doesn't change the fact I love the shit out of them.

There's a big difference between subjectivity and objectivity in art. What you were saying would be fine if it was the case of people complaining about how loud and immature Wuk is as a character. While I do find that to be the cases, I didn't put that in my critique, because it's just that, personal preference. Where as the way the characters don't develop and instead their personalities flip between whatever is needed for a specific story thread, is objectively poor when it comes to writing standards. See the difference?