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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Personally I think the first step for them should be saying "we heard your feedback and don't ignore it, don't worry we take it serious".
    It would not be the solution but it would calm down people quite a bit.
    This is what I hope for: them acknowledging the feedback. I mean, I still want to trust the dev team.

    And remember this?



    I hope they still take this seriously.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

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    The problem is how they define the word "fans" to begin with, they may think of fans as the ones who see them do no wrong and consider the ones who are vocal or critical to the game as "non-fans" or "loud minority". While I do not understand it fully, the western side of stuff tends to do that, such as the case of Disney and Star War, ending up with their own echo chamber of praise and rejecting any criticism from "fans" as from haters.
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    "Bait used to be believable"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceNox View Post
    The problem is how they define the word "fans" to begin with, they may think of fans as the ones who see them do no wrong and consider the ones who are vocal or critical to the game as "non-fans" or "loud minority". While I do not understand it fully, the western side of stuff tends to do that, such as the case of Disney and Star War, ending up with their own echo chamber of praise and rejecting any criticism from "fans" as from haters.
    I didn't have the impression they do this up until now. They seemed to listen to both sides equally.
    But if this should prove true, which I hope it won't, then everything they apparently learned would be null and void.
    Please don't take this route devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceNox View Post
    The problem is how they define the word "fans" to begin with, they may think of fans as the ones who see them do no wrong and consider the ones who are vocal or critical to the game as "non-fans" or "loud minority". While I do not understand it fully, the western side of stuff tends to do that, such as the case of Disney and Star War, ending up with their own echo chamber of praise and rejecting any criticism from "fans" as from haters.
    There is also an increased focus from popular content creators who cry out for the superficial over the substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    This is what I hope for: them acknowledging the feedback. I mean, I still want to trust the dev team.

    And remember this?



    I hope they still take this seriously.
    Lol i remember this, It just makes me think all the more that Dawntrail was entrusted to newer people who just dont get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZodaSoda View Post
    Lol i remember this, It just makes me think all the more that Dawntrail was entrusted to newer people who just dont get it.
    That's a symptom of the larger problem with society and this "immediate gratification" mindset. Gotta get fast profits, endless growth.

    You want to hire a real journalist? Nah, just get that intern to make an article with 3 tweets and a reddit post as the source.

    You want to hire a graphic designer? Nah, just get the art from AI, no need to hire someone to DRAW something, gosh.

    Developers? Are you CRAZY? How about we get someone out of a 6 month bootcamp for a fraction of the price. It'll be 'good enough', we can promise patches down the line.

    This is unfortunately the story in many industries as we move further toward this top-heavy system. Folks have noticed the slip in quality. This industry in particular used to be a labor of love, a hobby for folks who deeply loved fantasy. Then it started to make a little money and the second that happens, folks who have no business directing any kind of art whatsoever end up in charge and it turns into nothing more than a 'product for the purpose of making money' rather than a 'product of my imagination that happens to make some money'.

    It's depressing to have lived long enough to witness this morph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    This is what I hope for: them acknowledging the feedback. I mean, I still want to trust the dev team.

    And remember this?



    I hope they still take this seriously.
    if they just listen toxic positivity then the game is doom to fail again in the story aspect
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    I want to like her, and still do for the most part. I can agree that the writers tried way too hard to make us like her, and forced her into too much of the story. She's a decent character handled badly.

    I ran out of patience when she did a massive chunk of damage to the final boss outta nowhere. I can tolerate her showing up, I can tolerate her trying to talk some sense into Sphene one more time, fine. Throw out some big dick mitigation to the players, apply some vulnerability stacks to Sphene because you keep fucking with her resolve, that'd be pretty cool actually. But please. After an entire expansion of me facilitating your happy horseshit, right there would have been a very good way to reciprocate and facilitate my particular brand of happy horseshit (god killing). That's some good fuckin' cinema.

    Don't bust in and mog us all by doing 13 million damage in a single swing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCopter View Post
    I want to like her, and still do for the most part. I can agree that the writers tried way too hard to make us like her, and forced her into too much of the story. She's a decent character handled badly.

    I ran out of patience when she did a massive chunk of damage to the final boss outta nowhere. I can tolerate her showing up, I can tolerate her trying to talk some sense into Sphene one more time, fine. Throw out some big dick mitigation to the players, apply some vulnerability stacks to Sphene because you keep fucking with her resolve, that'd be pretty cool actually. But please. After an entire expansion of me facilitating your happy horseshit, right there would have been a very good way to reciprocate and facilitate my particular brand of happy horseshit (god killing). That's some good fuckin' cinema.

    Don't bust in and mog us all by doing 13 million damage in a single swing.
    That for me was...probably the worst part of the expansion and made me hate the trial because I don't want to see that again, but you have to.
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