Dawntrail's Final Zones destroy everything the story has built.

[Granyala]

The fact that Sphene can make the decision to go against her programming at all shows she's more than just an AI.

Sphene: yes. She has administrative privileges after all.
The other endless do not have such freedoms.

Even Cahciua doesn't. The only thing she really did was hijack one of the monitor trashmobs to communicate with the outside world. At that point, she is the only Endless except from Sphene that even gets any sort of data from outside the system.

[SirShady]

Sphene: yes. She has administrative privileges after all.
The other endless do not have such freedoms.

Even Cahciua doesn't. The only thing she really did was hijack one of the monitor trashmobs to communicate with the outside world. At that point, she is the only Endless except from Sphene that even gets any sort of data from outside the system.

Cahciua feels sadness, seemingly has all her memories in tact, and comes to the conclusion that the Endless should be deleted. These are things that directly contradict what we're told about the Endless being these perfectly content facsimiles. She even makes the decision to go out and explore the outside world before she even explores the fauna section of Living Memory, for whatever reason.

Like I said, nobody can win. It's clear we're putting way more thought into this than the writers ever did. It really doesn't matter. I'm gonna save myself the headache and leave it at this...

Dawntrail's writing is crap.

[Turtledeluxe]

Cahciua feels sadness, seemingly has all her memories in tact, and comes to the conclusion that the Endless should be deleted. These are things that directly contradict what we're told about the Endless being these perfectly content facsimiles. She even makes the decision to go out and explore the outside world before she even explores the fauna section of Living Memory, for whatever reason.

Like I said, nobody can win. It's clear we're putting way more thought into this than the writers ever did. It really doesn't matter. I'm gonna save myself the headache and leave it at this...

Dawntrail's writing is crap.

Players putting more thought into the finer details and consistency of the narrative is a tale as old as the time I started the game. There are too many writers of too many talent levels and specializations to seriously expect something perfectly consistent or always compelling.

[Granyala]

Players putting more thought into the finer details and consistency of the narrative is a tale as old as the time I started the game. There are too many writers of too many talent levels and specializations to seriously expect something perfectly consistent or always compelling.

Not just the case in games I'm afraid.
Think too much about any story, and you WILL find inconsistencies and plot holes.

Humans are imperfect beings, as such our creations will also be imperfect.

That being said: DT's story does have some pretty bloody big and gaping holes.

[SirShady]

Players putting more thought into the finer details and consistency of the narrative is a tale as old as the time I started the game. There are too many writers of too many talent levels and specializations to seriously expect something perfectly consistent or always compelling.

This is true, but I've come to expect better from FFXIV. I had problems in Endwalker with how the WoL had no choice but to idolize Venat even if we disagree with how she went about The Final Days and genociding her own people. This is on a whole other level though.

These are very basic questions the writers should be asking themselves during the writing process. How do we show that the Endless are just facsimiles? How can we be sure the story is having the intended emotional affect on the player? Are we leaving this part open to interpretation? I wish the answer to that last question was "yes", but sadly the Disney music at the end suggests otherwise. And there's tons of this present throughout all of Dawntrail. It's clear they just didn't care and figured, "Eh, play whatever music fits the intention and then we won't have to actually put work into the writing."