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    Quote Originally Posted by Palladiamors View Post
    They didn't, though. Sphene proves that when she has to literally delete herself in order to do something against her programing. The only way they charge is if they are changed. They are nothing more than the echoes of the dead, forced to forevermore pantomime the people the memories belonged to.
    Except the “important” endless all stand in opposition to this

    Cahciua as was explained still has memories and doesn’t want to be an endless stuck in living memory. Namikka was happy to be turned off but also incredibly grateful that being in living memory allowed her to finally have some closure with Wuk lamat after she got trapped in the dome. Otis is genuinely interested in the future beyond where his knowledge ends after he is reconstructed into an endless and krile’s parents both appreciated being able to see their daughter but also didn’t want their knowledge to be used for Ill

    None of them were ghosts pantomiming the living incarnation they were sapient beings with thoughts and feelings. Sure the background endless played like NPC’s but I mean that’s the same of even living NPC’s. Every named endless acts fully like a real human does, expressing all emotions and not just enforced happiness by the system

    But at the end of the day I agree with shady, the writing just isn’t good and it creates these problems
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-07-2024 at 03:39 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    none of them were ghosts pantomiming the living incarnation they were sapient beings with thoughts and feelings.
    No dude. They were ai. They were programed to think and act the way there past self did. But they're about as much people as chat gpt is
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    No dude. They were ai. They were programed to think and act the way there past self did. But they're about as much people as chat gpt is
    For someone who hates debating with me you searched quite a few pages to find that quote

    Regardless I don’t think any of the 5 important endless (cauchia, kriles parents, Otis and namikka) acted anything like programmed AI, especially cauchia who specifically wanted to use that drone to affect events outside of living memory

    When the story actually gave focus and time to an endless they were revealed to be far more than just memories acting on a system
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess