One small worrying issue I have with Dawntrail (Ending Spoilers)

[Ririta]

I'm pretty sure that Doma and Zodiark were the only new elements that ARR added over 1.0. Plus nothing stops them from taking 1 existing element and extrapolating it, the few that were added actually have bigger consequences than any older one.

[KisaiTenshi]

I'm pretty sure that Doma and Zodiark were the only new elements that ARR added over 1.0. Plus nothing stops them from taking 1 existing element and extrapolating it, the few that were added actually have bigger consequences than any older one.

Nope. 1.0 opening movie. The Keeper of the Lake (Midgardsormr) crushes the Garlean airship it hits lake Silvertear, and from this we see a bunch of primals being released. What we learned from post-HW, Shadowbringers and Endwalker is that the "1.0" opening is "the first" before the light consumed it. That might be a "retcon" but we know as early as Stormblood that the "1.0 cutscene map" had to still exist because they used it for the Red Mage marketing with the 1.0 Miqo'te character from that cutscene.


1.0 had Ishgard in it (or at least you could get up to the loading tunnel.) Mostly. we actually lost all but a small part of Coretheas between 1.0 and 2.0, so HW was pretty much re-incorporating it proper. But all Corethas definitely was in it. You can see the "broken" aetheryte camp in one of the areas that is from 1.0. Just like the broken 1.0 tents just outside Mor Dohna's walls.


There is a lot of "unresolved" things about 1.0/2.0 that are still in the game
- Who founded Gridania /Gelmorra
- Who founded Ul'dah (and no the variant dungeon is just a one-off story)
- Who founded Limsa Lominsa

There were entire dungeons built in 1.0 that no longer exist because they were "outdoor" dungeons

The entire "storyline" for both Limsa Lominsa and Gridanaia if you started in those cities haven't been mentioned except in passing. "I saw a Treant eat a wolf" is a reference to starting in Gridanaia.

I would accept a story where we use the key to other worlds to visit one that is very much like the source, except the three city states of Eorzea are actually at each others throats instead. The leaders we know, do not exist.

Because that is something we never really "did ourselves", that was something that happened because of the Garleans, so what if there was a reflection where the Garleans didn't invade, there is no Dalamud, and no Midgardsormr. What would it look like.

[Daralii]

The Battle of Silvertear Skies cinematic isn't the one with the proto-Crystarium(it was from a much earlier tech demo of what eventually became 1.0, before it was even called FF14), and the Crystarium wasn't built until after the Flood.

[Sephi_Ravour]

Did I get it right that Sphenes world was actually rejoined in the past and only the small bubble and living memory remained?

It isn't explained in game and Y'shtola even says that there is no way of knowing which shard it is. Personally I doubt that this is the last remnant of a rejoined world. The ascians wanted to rejoin the whole star, they wouldn't let a small bubble remain. Also the calamity of ice that made the milalafell leave the source was the 5th, whereas the calamity of lightning was the 2nd. Kind hard to imagine how they would flee to a shard that had already rejoined at that time.

[Voidmage]

It isn't explained in game and Y'shtola even says that there is no way of knowing which shard it is. Personally I doubt that this is the last remnant of a rejoined world. The ascians wanted to rejoin the whole star, they wouldn't let a small bubble remain. Also the calamity of ice that made the milalafell leave the source was the 5th, whereas the calamity of lightning was the 2nd. Kind hard to imagine how they would flee to a shard that had already rejoined at that time.

Hmm I forogot about the Milalla.
Regarding the calamity order. Imo we don't know yet how exactly the time stuff between shards and source works. It could be that it gets so bad that a destroyed shard may still exist in the "past" and that's how the Milalla got there.
That would give us also quite a potential on future stories like getting to a shard while it is rejoined (would also be bad for us while being there).

At least to me everything screamed calamity of lightning there. Not explaining this (or better said no interest from the scions) is just another bad writing issue.
Or they just forgot their own oder of calamities.