Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Cheapshot]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...bles-lip-gloss

This time instead of rejecting it for insufficient information, they kicked it away into “not a bug report” category. What does that even mean?!? Im so exasperated! are they saying that lip gloss being permanent and “light” looking identical to “none” isn’t a bug??? Even though “none” used to disable lip gloss? But they didn’t send it to “working as intended”? With zero feedback what am I supposed to do? What does this even mean?

I’m so sick of trying my best to be constructive and putting in days of work because I care about this game so much and I want my enjoyment of it back! I don’t want to be just another poster trashing the game without being useful, there’s more than enough of those, but this just sucks. This graphics update has been terrible.

Edit: can someone else report this bug? I just have zero clue what they want from me so maybe someone else will have better luck.

[Iscah]

can someone else report this bug? I just have zero clue what they want from me so maybe someone else will have better luck.

In general, I suspect the key thing that gets reports rejected is when people remove the sort of table at the top where you fill out date / time / character / NPC / housing stuff. Even if it's all irrelevant, just leave it there and write "n/a" or "none" in the fields before explaining yourself below. They're certainly more picky about it than about filling in the PC/console info below.

[Cheapshot]

In general, I suspect the key thing that gets reports rejected is when people remove the sort of table at the top where you fill out date / time / character / NPC / housing stuff. Even if it's all irrelevant, just leave it there and write "n/a" or "none" in the fields before explaining yourself below. They're certainly more picky about it than about filling in the PC/console info below.

I mean I looked through all the accepted reports and I have just as much of that form filled out as most of those. More than some of them even! I don’t know what leaving in “retainer:” would change. And plus it wasn’t rejected for missing information this time, it was sent to “not a bug report”, which I don’t even understand why or what that means instead of “working as intended”. I checked the description of the section and I’m still confused.

[miqomiqobeam]

Hello and happy Dawntrail! I've been having so much fun in game with all the new characters and cultures - I'm in love! Unfortunately, my miqote is still a major distraction when it comes to cutscenes and just general walking around. Sorry if this is a little disorganized!


Eye 3
Still too round. The sharpness of eyes 3 has been rounded out and lost it's personality.
The color is dull, and while I changed my settings to be more saturated, they still are a lot darker than pre Dawntrail. They lack life in a lot of scenes, and are so dark most of the time. I tried to show the colors interacting with each other in my graphic and how there is a lack of high contrast in comparison to before.
Not only that, but I noticed that the pupil is slightly shorter than it was before and more round. This causes my miqote eyes to not look very cat-like anymore - they look almost similar to a Keeper of the Moon or just any eye without a fierce look. Due to the dullness, the lack of contrast, and shading, the eyes are a huge distraction to me.
The eye whites being so bright and blue toned are also unnatural.

Eyebrow 4: Too thin, I picked this eyebrow for it's thickness and angle and both of those are gone. Especially in cut scenes, it's very noticeable. I miss my cat's thick eyebrows!

Lips: The color is too unnatural. I have to put on a brown/orange lipstick on my character so it isn't distracting during cut scenes. I still would prefer if there wasn't such a smile in comparison to the other faces, but it looks much better than benchmark.

Edited Photo:
Eyebrows, Eye Shape, Eye Lashes, and Lips reverted.
More natural and cohesive colors on lips + less shine.
Eye pupil is thinner and longer.
Eye Color is brightened and lighter (as it was before.)
Shading on upper iris is darkened.
Hair darkened/desaturated.

[SummerSplendor]

A small collage of my midlander face 3. She used to have a babyface, glossy pouty lips and doe eyes. The update removed : my round upper lip, the lip liner who got with it, my thick black eyelashes, and the single white dot light reflection in my eyes. All my signature presets got erased. They removed the anime touch in favor of more realism and it ruined my girl.

I tried to be cool about it and gave it time, but I'm still deeply disappointed. I hate how marked her eyesockets(?) are, how prominent her nose look like, and how far apart her eyes seems to be now. Plus, I have mixed feelings about her skin. I like how vibrant it is on her body, but don't like how it operates on her face, since I prefer matte finish. I wish they had given us the option via a cursor to choose a more matte or glossy finish. Heck, i wish they had simply added those "improved" presets plus a finish cursor in the create-a-character and offer us a free fantasia to try them.

ps: im french, but posted it here in hope to be noticed by SE. Im a new player, and dont know if european voices are often heard or not.

[Doopliss]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...bles-lip-gloss

This time instead of rejecting it for insufficient information, they kicked it away into “not a bug report” category. What does that even mean?!? Im so exasperated! are they saying that lip gloss being permanent and “light” looking identical to “none” isn’t a bug??? Even though “none” used to disable lip gloss? But they didn’t send it to “working as intended”? With zero feedback what am I supposed to do? What does this even mean?

I’m so sick of trying my best to be constructive and putting in days of work because I care about this game so much and I want my enjoyment of it back! I don’t want to be just another poster trashing the game without being useful, there’s more than enough of those, but this just sucks. This graphics update has been terrible.

Edit: can someone else report this bug? I just have zero clue what they want from me so maybe someone else will have better luck.

This got lost in the sauce due to how much discussion's around this topic, but it was mentioned in here and in the JP thread before: the Lalafell "dolphin teeth" issue was categorized as "Not a Bug Report" in the JP forums before getting fixed, too.

If you look at the stickied thread on the "Not a Bug Report" section, it'll explain that it holds reports that are also other types of issues...though, admittedly, not in a very in-depth or helpful way.

I assume that it's at least better than going into "Working as Intended," which feels like more of a death sentence, given what the stickied thread there explains, lol.

I've been speculating that certain changes that go into "Not a Bug Report" were done intentionally, but didn't have the intended result, if that makes sense. They did mention in the NA fanfest, after all, that they did add more shine to everyone's lips on purpose, but now more and more people are finding out it looks off.

The issue I reported with female Highlander makeup and dark hair against dark skin went to "Not a Bug Report" too, but it looks so bad compared to before that even my friends with less care for detail think it looks like a downgrade. So I'm hoping these are things they'll still readjust, like the Lalafell teeth issue.

[Crystalenya]

I’m not typically a forum poster, but after reading (skimming) all 59 pages I felt there wasn’t nearly enough mention of Au Ra limbal rings. So, here’s my feedback:

Above is a crop of a goose I took at some point before the update. Below is what I compromised on after burning the free fantasia and finally giving up on the new rings.



And here’s my journey as to why I simply gave up on limbal rings (one of Au Ras’ defining features).

The ring is now a gradient that overlays the eye, going from opaque at the outside and fading to transparent. Previously it was a hard edged ring.



Given the changes in the iris and pupil, losing a bit of gloss in the update, adding this extra hazy overlay only makes the eye that much more lifeless.

I was going to simply deal with that until I got into low light situations what I found the rings now have a demonic emissive glow!



I had already used my free fantasia to lighten her overall eye color to try to get back to pre-7.0 vibes, but when I could finally no longer stand the glowing eyes, I bought a fantasia and I’m now a very saddened Miqo. I miss my Au Ra, but her eyes were her window to her soul, and they’re shattered now. If I’m going to play a character I don’t recognize, I might as well play one that doesn’t leave me with bitterness and longing for days gone by…

Thank you so so much for this. I thought I was going crazy and I was the only one seeing it, nearly no one talks about this.
Literally what you said, Limba makes the eyes lifeless during daytime lightning while a demonic-glow appears during night.

What bothered me the most is the vast inconsistency between how the eyes with Limba rings look during Day and Night

[Holt9]

Hi all,

I have encountered issues with Dllss and overall quality graphics update.
My system is good to run this on max, but max graphics making this worse.
Here is image below for your interest, hope this gets fixed soon.

https://imgur.com/a/JyxfjoP

[aiqa]

Hi all,

I have encountered issues with Dllss and overall quality graphics update.
My system is good to run this on max, but max graphics making this worse.
Here is image below for your interest, hope this gets fixed soon.

https://imgur.com/a/JyxfjoP

The game stops camera jitter during cutscenes, which breaks DLSS.

[FateweaverAlpha]

Howdy all. First time I've ever used these forums. I play on PS5 for reference but I figured I'd post my Duskwight Elezen fella cause the changes to him are pretty drastic and I'm wondering what happened...
I wasn't able to grab many before pics as IRL got in the way and when I got back the update was in progress. I never got to see him in the benchmark being a PS5 player. I managed to scrape together a before and after image and gif using his old and new Bard portrait which shows exactly how bad it is.

Black Cloak is his Endwalker graphics, Red Cloak is his Dawntrail Graphics.



I used Face 2, Jaw 4, Eyes 3, Eyebrows 4, Nose 4, Mouth 1, and Ear Shape 1.

From what I can personally see his cheekbones have been lessened by a lot, while his lower jaw is larger between the ear and the chin, his eyebrows seem to have changed shape and placement, his lips almost always look like he's tiredly smiling now (when he isn't using his annoyed emote), his eyes have changed shape drastically (he always had a annoyed emote in his portraits cause that's his usual mood), and gotten bigger with very dark under eye bags, and his skin is very waxy/wet in appearance.
His nose is the least changed from what I can tell and I can live with that but the rest of all this changes him so much that I've been completely unable to play him. Tried several different combos of facial parts and nothing works.