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    BLM feedback.

    Hey,

    Nothing fancy just BLM feedback as described lol, sorry if it's too long:

    -New thunder feels really clunky, you cannot double DOT anymore, and you MUST swap fire/ice to be able to do so. If you run low SPS sometimes the timer will literally run out at the end of fire phase if you extend it. It does the same dmg as EW, the difference is most of the dmg comes from the dot now instead upfront, making it less reliable to use for movement unlike EW.

    -You cannot have short fire phases anymore without feeling really bad: if the boss is leaving in 7s and you've just got into umbral ice, you MUST cast blizzard 4 even tho you won't utilise all the fire 4s, it feels really bad.

    -Removal of ice paradox is simply a mistake, not only it was a cool spell but also it gave you the possibility to weave and move. You had the choice to use it either before or after Blizzard IV to align it with movement , now you don't have that option anymore, also it was a good finisher spell or before downtime.

    -New encounters and dungeons have received an increase in movement yet BLM has became more rigid and strict, fire phase now is longer and tighter due to instant fire paradox and flare star.

    -Making fire paradox instant in my opinion makes no sense, you are making the AF timer tighter due to the recast and you don't have the option to hold it for movement or anything like that, you don't say "oh yeah let me use paradox here for movement" you just use it when the timer is about to run out, if it aligns, you're lucky.

    -AOE rotation: enhance flare was removed and high fire/blizzard nerfed to 100p, the result is simple: using those spells are literally a dps loss, the only thing you do is cast flare twice once you get 3 hearts and then flare star. If you use transpose you can even skip using high fire/blizzard entirely and just use freeze. AOE changes encourages you to not use half of your AOE spells.

    -BLM dps is really behind right now, the job feels way more punishing and restricted and yet the damage is not there, I'm happy this was addressed along with MP recovery at low levels.

    -Flare star just feels like despair 2.0, doesn't have that much potency and you cannot even carry the stacks into umbral ice.

    I'm not even going to mention non standard rotation and transpose tech because it is clear that SE doesn't want you to use it, I could be all day typing about that.

    I may have forgotten something but those are the main issues I think, thanks for reading
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    Mao thanks Deryk for feedsback. Is pretty good points. Mao thinkings is boil down to Devs, for some reason, wanted to ruins spell flow and make lots spells become crappys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao thanks Deryk for feedsback. Is pretty good points. Mao thinkings is boil down to Devs, for some reason, wanted to ruins spell flow and make lots spells become crappys.
    Maybe if people would stop writing like toddlers, feedback would be taken more seriously. Christ almighty what am I even reading here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkoBernkastel View Post
    Maybe if people would stop writing like toddlers, feedback would be taken more seriously. Christ almighty what am I even reading here?
    Mao does RPs in game and on Forum. Mao was adopteds as baby by Dragon Momma. Mao nots know Eorzean language very well buts Mao knows Dragon speakings. If is bother Renko, feel free to ignores Mao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkoBernkastel View Post
    Maybe if people would stop writing like toddlers, feedback would be taken more seriously. Christ almighty what am I even reading here?
    ...they have been using third-person self-referencing for as long as I remember them. If anything, I respect them for not breaking character once on that matter. Their feedback is no less valuable as anyone else actively playing the job, so who are you to judge them for RP talk? Kindly leave Mao alone, not cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkoBernkastel View Post
    Maybe if people would stop writing like toddlers, feedback would be taken more seriously. Christ almighty what am I even reading here?
    contributed more than you, just leave.

    Putting the trolls aside atm Mao did a great list of the problems with BLM. I don't know who actually thought these changes were actually good but they need to be looked at asap because right now BLM is not looking good atm. BLM was always the one job that stayed the same, there was nothing wrong with it. I may hang up BLM until I see some reverts/fixes
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    As a BLM main since 1.0, I do not like these changes to the Job. I have enjoyed every change each expansion brought, but this is the most clunky annoying and weak powered I have seen in 13+ years. I would rather have 1.0 BLM rather than Dawntrails

    They need to up the damage, increase timers or reduce cast times. Remove Flarestar and bring back Ice Paradox. OR Just revert BLM back to Endwalker state with increased potency and try again in 8.0

    As I fear this Savage tier, BLM will be excluded from joining groups like what happened a while in Stormblood when the META was better than BLM and SAMs

    I still remember when this meme was floating around during Stormblood

    And the changes IF only Mana regen fix for low level and a slight potency increase are planned for 7.01 and 7.05, it will not be enough. BLM needs more action based changes/reworks :/

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    Think most people who played Black Mage during Endwalker seriously and done the new extremes, would rather have them roll back the changes. Its not just one button that is gone but entire playstyles. In statics you might be able to work with it, but in pf Endwalker BLM was great, because you had many answers for dynamic situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meie View Post
    Think most people who played Black Mage during Endwalker seriously and done the new extremes, would rather have them roll back the changes. Its not just one button that is gone but entire playstyles. In statics you might be able to work with it, but in pf Endwalker BLM was great, because you had many answers for dynamic situations.
    Yeah I can honestly say I would prefer they removed all Dawntrall changes and abilities, buffed Endwalker abilities to proper balance, and do a rework for 8.0 instead of this frustrating mess atm :/ I cannot fathom how they could fail this badly at a Job that has been pretty good since 1.0/ARR and to Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    Yeah I can honestly say I would prefer they removed all Dawntrall changes and abilities, buffed Endwalker abilities to proper balance, and do a rework for 8.0 instead of this frustrating mess atm :/ I cannot fathom how they could fail this badly at a Job that has been pretty good since 1.0/ARR and to Endwalker.
    Agree, this is the low point for BLM. I don't like anything added for DT. Every change has contributed to making the class less interesting and more of a chore. Thunder and short fire phases feel terrible.
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