Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Malthir]

It’s permanently damaged my trust in FFXIV to be honest.

Multiple people gave the green light to DT’s MSQ (and the Endwalker post MSQ). They wrote it, checked it, double checked it, and shipped it like this. Did Yoshi not play it first? Did any of them? The change in quality of storytelling was rapid and shockingly obvious, so much so I actually discovered and logged on to these forums for the first time since starting to play to find out what on earth had happened.

I hung around far too long after getting burned by Blizzard, and I swore never to give a company that much goodwill again. FFXIV felt like a breath of fresh air, a development team that actually really cared about the player enjoying themselves, cared about the lore and story.

The expansion was the first time I came looking for these forums. It is the first time the story felt like a slog rather than a joy. The first time I logged off in the middle of the last zone, vowing never to return because I was so annoyed/bored. And it is the last time that I will preorder an FFXIV expansion or play any of the post MSQ patches until I see reviews first and know which way the game is heading.

My I suggest SWTOR, the free to play version is not great, and the gameplay has some jank but each class has a fully voice decent storyline where you actually get to do things. I know that sounds like a novelty after the shitshow that is DT. Been playing through it myself just to have an MMO with an actual story I can enjoy.

[antiabz]

My I suggest SWTOR, the free to play version is not great, and the gameplay has some jank but each class has a fully voice decent storyline where you actually get to do things. I know that sounds like a novelty after the shitshow that is DT. Been playing through it myself just to have an MMO with an actual story I can enjoy.

Thanks, I will check that out. We were at a bit of a loss trying to think what to play this weekend!

[Embran]

Thanks, I will check that out. We were at a bit of a loss trying to think what to play this weekend!

If you're looking for an MMO with a story, you're not going to avoid being burned in the same way by going to SWTOR lol. The base game storylines are good, but they get absolutely horrendous when you get to the expansion content. There's also the fact that current "expansions" are about the equivalent of an XIV patch in terms of content density, and the game is on life support.

I would honestly recommend GW2 before SWTOR if you are looking for a game with a decent future. SWTOR is fine if you don't mind being "finished" with it after you play through the base game's stories.

But you're going to be burned in the exact same ways by SWTOR. A promising start that devolves in to mediocrity and then worse.

[Daralii]

If you're looking for an MMO with a story, you're not going to avoid being burned in the same way by going to SWTOR lol. The base game storylines are good, but they get absolutely horrendous when you get to the expansion content. There's also the fact that current "expansions" are about the equivalent of an XIV patch in terms of content density, and the game is on life support.

I would honestly recommend GW2 before SWTOR if you are looking for a game with a decent future. SWTOR is fine if you don't mind being "finished" with it after you play through the base game's stories.

But you're going to be burned in the exact same ways by SWTOR. A promising start that devolves in to mediocrity and then worse.

I've played GW2 off and on since release, and I'm of the opinion that it basically only has a future out of necessity. ArenaNet's tried to abandon it multiple times and had to be smacked around by NCSoft to the point that they had 3 titles canceled and the staff assigned to them fired. It also has plenty of absolutely terrible stories, though they probably have more voice acting.

[Embran]

I've played GW2 off and on since release, and I'm of the opinion that it basically only has a future out of necessity. ArenaNet's tried to abandon it multiple times and had to be smacked around by NCSoft to the point that they had 3 titles canceled and the staff assigned to them fired. It also has plenty of absolutely terrible stories, though they probably have more voice acting.

Welcome to the reality of MMOs. I know this is the "FFXIV bad" thread, and I absolutely had many issues with DT's MSQ -- much more than any other MSQ to date -- but I refuse to live in some bizzaro world where SWTOR is suddenly the pinnacle of MMO storytelling. The base game stories are FANTASTIC. Especially Sith Inquisitor's, which was my favorite. But if people think DT is bad and are moving to SWTOR, it's only because they haven't reached the expansions yet.

The truth is, as far as western MMOs go, only FFXIV, WoW and ESO are the ones with any promising futures, and each of those games have problems of their own. I'd recommend WoW, which I also play, but the person said they were burned by Blizzard before, so I'm not going to shove it down their throats.

GW2 is in the "safe" category. The game is fine. It's not very ambitious anymore owed to its lack of revenue, but it will keep pumping out decent content at a decent pace.

I think telling people to go to SWTOR is laughable, though. It's fine if you want a single player story that you can put down. But the support that game gets is close to zero. You get the equivalent of an XIV patch every 2 years. And that might be generous.

[Fluxating]

My I suggest SWTOR, the free to play version is not great, and the gameplay has some jank but each class has a fully voice decent storyline where you actually get to do things. I know that sounds like a novelty after the shitshow that is DT. Been playing through it myself just to have an MMO with an actual story I can enjoy.

While I never really touched anything end game, I found the Imperial Agent and Sith Warrior stories alone worth downloading the game and trying it out.