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  1. #811
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    midnitdragoon's Avatar
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    Midnight Dragoon
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    Now if you said the game has Wuk tendencies, I would have to agree with you.

    But once you realize that the Hanu scenario plays straight from the 'primitive tribal people need smart white man to come tell them something stupidly obvious' trope, you'll start to notice that actual respect for other cultures and diversity and all that is quite far from this expansion.
    I'm not saying that your right or wrong.... I just don't know if this is the right direction for XIV to go in. Only time will tell, and of course my opinion will change as I go through MSQ
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  2. #812
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    James Oakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    It occurred to me, one of the (many) reasons why the character comes off as so annoying is that they constantly interject into discussions with other NPCs, stating the obvious and not actually adding anything of value. In any other expansion, it would typically be the WoL silently reacting with an emote, or the occasional dialogue option, or one of the Scions occasionally adding something insightful. But in Dawntrail it's Wuk Lamat constantly and unceasingly stating the obvious whenever she's around. I can't count the number of times where I would be hastily clicking past her dialogue specifically, and it only got worse the longer the story dragged on, and I honestly haven't missed anything important to the story from doing so.
    She frustratingly seems to crush almost every scene in the game, it's crazy how she's the only focus of pretty much everything
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  3. #813
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    Asane Paran
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I'm doing the melee role quests before starting the level 99 MSQ and it's a breath of fresh air to unravel the story by myself with no Wuk Lamat in sight pushing her opinions and expecting praise. Doing this quest line veeeeeery slowly just to extend the time away from her. I've never felt like I needed to actively avoid the MSQ to enjoy the game until now. Not even in ARR.

    I started first role and crafting quests, but then went the opposite way - I decided to stop everything else and finish MSQ as fast as possible, so I don't have it hanging over my head. Did it today and now I can finally do things without Wuk Lamat lurking at every corner.
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  4. #814
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    Chamomile Tea
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    I started first role and crafting quests, but then went the opposite way - I decided to stop everything else and finish MSQ as fast as possible, so I don't have it hanging over my head. Did it today and now I can finally do things without Wuk Lamat lurking at every corner.
    Lucky you, I'm trying so hard to get there too but it's a slog. I've never been more excited to finally finish the MSQ so I can grind out leveling crafting and other jobs in a FFXIV expansion.
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  5. #815
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    Lucky you, I'm trying so hard to get there too but it's a slog. I've never been more excited to finally finish the MSQ so I can grind out leveling crafting and other jobs in a FFXIV expansion.
    Definitely power through it. I was extremely sour on the expansion until the MSQ was over and I was allowed to have fun again. I've had a good time doing end game/leveling stuff. DT PvE stuff is really good.
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  6. #816
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Definitely power through it. I was extremely sour on the expansion until the MSQ was over and I was allowed to have fun again. I've had a good time doing end game/leveling stuff. DT PvE stuff is really good.
    Yeah I really like everything besides the MSQ and I am actually excited to spend a long time in these zones, dungeons, listening to the music, collecting cool looking gear, etc. Every other aspect of the expansion the developers knocked out of the park minus the writing team, I don't know what happened because the story has always been the strongest aspect.
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  7. #817
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    Lio Diateles
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    Lucky you, I'm trying so hard to get there too but it's a slog. I've never been more excited to finally finish the MSQ so I can grind out leveling crafting and other jobs in a FFXIV expansion.
    Yeah I'm still going through the last zone. Early on, I started doing all the aether currents first; I normally hate the aether current hunt, purely subjectively, and wish they'd just be given to me by finishing a zone's story, but this time around they're a nice solitary reprieve before I have to get back to the quests. That says a lot. But I just got the last one that's not tied to the main quest progression, so back into the fray it goes.

    And in the last zones, I've thought over and over again how cool some elements are on their own, and what potential the story has if given room to breathe. I wish the first half of the expansion was just cut out entirely, forget the succession game, start somewhere in the wild west and then give the whole latter half the space it needs. And by all the Divines and all the Primals, leave Wuk Lamat out, because we're getting some pretty decent dialogue sometimes when she's not there, and then she butts in again and gets the camera focus, the reactions, the decisionmaking, and all the bit of depth that was trying to build up collapses again like the saddest house of cards. This expansion could have worked, there are the hints, and that's one of the saddest things about this.
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  8. #818
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    This seems very much to be a case of Wuk Lamat being the writer's baby. It's just assumed you love her from the start and want to help, there is no other option, nothing other than complete trust and support for this new character.
    I doubt SE, CBU3, or the writer thought people would find her annoying, cringe, or otherwise not completely fall in love with her from the start.

    To me that's the most annoying part, there's no room to warm up to her, she's just shoved down your throat. "Oh we need to split up? I'll go with the WoL!"
    It feels like she is in the spotlight the entire expansion and you're just background dressing forced to support her whether you want to or not, while youre character has the biggest grin on their face.

    While you may not want to, your WoL wants nothing more than to help out the writer's little mary sue baby at any cost.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 07-05-2024 at 05:37 AM.

  9. #819
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    Asura Ranweld
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    Omega
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Wuk Lamat is a good character with good char development and really made me enjoy this expansion story more. People need to chill about not being the MC all the time, it's been 10 years of that, can't we enjoy something different for once ?

    Also, what's cringe about her really ? She is a bit naive at first, but then grow to be much more mature and everything, how is that so bad ? Nitpicking at it's finest, people that cringe for that, oof...
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    Last edited by Vhein; 07-05-2024 at 05:34 AM.

  10. #820
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhein View Post
    Wuk Lamat is a good character with good char development and really made me enjoy this expansion story more. People need to chill about not being the MC all the time, it's been 10 years of that, can't we enjoy something different for once ?
    Why would I want to play a game where I'm not the main character?
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