JP Official Forums are also criticizing the Dawntrail MSQ.

[HighlanderClone]

What are you, 5?

The people who are 5 are the ones who jump in and start insulting others and saying they have mental health issues.

I didn't realize being passionate about the MSQ in this game is an indication of having mental health issues. God forbid people want to make some noise so that SE could improve next time.

[ZodaSoda]

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You may or may not end up feeling the same way, The core of the issue for a lot of people is the sheer amount of screentime that revolves around Wuk Lamat and how most of the time we stand there like a doddering yes man, I honestly think besides a few dumb story elements aurrounding Mamook and Hanu, things have been mostly chill and fine, if they would just stop forcing Wuk Lamat constantly, It just doesnt stop and if you dont like her or have no interest in her, it makes for a bad experience, They've never done this before and you would think someone would have said maybe we should chill out a bit on the amount of Wuk Lamat time, but nope, it feels like some weird Social Experiment, how much can we make people who love our game play when we keep force feeding them a character over and over.

[KurenXIV]

God forbid people want to make some noise so that SE could improve next time.

This times a million.

People here seem to forget that the only reason ARR turned out to be successful is that Yoshi-P and their team listened to the player feedback for 1.0. They've said multiple times how valuable that feedback was.

I said this in another thread but negative feedback isn't a bad thing, it means you have people who care about your product. What you don't want is apathy. If people simply don't care anymore they will unsub and leave forever.

So why not try and have them make the best possible game they can? We know they are capable of better stories because we've played through several expansions which have, objectively, better stories.

[HighlanderClone]

This times a million.

People here seem to forget that the only reason ARR turned out to be successful is that Yoshi-P and their team listened to the player feedback for 1.0. They've said multiple times how valuable that feedback was.

I said this in another thread but negative feedback isn't a bad thing, it means you have people who care about your product. What you don't want is apathy. If people simply don't care anymore they will unsub and leave forever.

So why not try and have them make the best possible game they can? We know they are capable of better stories because we've played through several expansions which have, objectively, better stories.

This thread also just shows that it isn't just some cross-cultural divide on this particular issue where NA/EU hatewagon the story while JP loved it, unlike some other issues where JP and NA/EU actually have some level of disagreement (like healer job design). I found it surprising just how closely aligned a lot of our criticisms are.

[KurenXIV]

This thread also just shows that it isn't just some cross-cultural divide on this particular issue where NA/EU hatewagon the story while JP loved it, unlike some other issues where JP and NA/EU actually have some level of disagreement (like healer job design).

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for translating and posting these; it really helps to show that as a whole players aren't happy with the state of this aspect of the game.

[ZodaSoda]

This times a million.

People here seem to forget that the only reason ARR turned out to be successful is that Yoshi-P and their team listened to the player feedback for 1.0. They've said multiple times how valuable that feedback was.

I said this in another thread but negative feedback isn't a bad thing, it means you have people who care about your product. What you don't want is apathy. If people simply don't care anymore they will unsub and leave forever.

So why not try and have them make the best possible game they can? We know they are capable of better stories because we've played through several expansions which have, objectively, better stories.

The eternal irony is theres certain types of people who will say "games are for everyone" but then when people criticize things they like, they call them complainers and imply the game shouldnt cater to them aswell, now im not directly calling anyone out, but i've seen a few since this Wuk Drama started.

[Kashou]

Holy shit, the circlejerk in this forum is crazy.

Is there stuff to criticize? Absolutely. But the way you guys want to make it look like everything is bad and this was the worst story of all time is actually bordering on mental health issues.

Actually it is pretty much the worst story of all time. It is in fact so bad, and so damaging to the game and the story overall, that someone in leadership will probably have to step down for this release.

[fioravictorine]

This thread also just shows that it isn't just some cross-cultural divide on this particular issue where NA/EU hatewagon the story while JP loved it, unlike some other issues where JP and NA/EU actually have some level of disagreement (like healer job design). I found it surprising just how closely aligned a lot of our criticisms are.

I think the only difference is no one in JP is criticizing the VA, as the JP VA is very experienced and did a good job conveying the character and her emotions. It might be also why Wuk is less hated by JP

[Wind-Krysvein]

Sorry for off-topic, but has there been any talk of eye strain on the JP forums?

[Larirawiel]

OK, if JP players also complain about DT then they might listen.




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