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    I have to believe this is their response to criticism about the way tails clip in certain gear, but I know I'm not alone when I say, uh... this isn't the solution lol. It's an outright misunderstanding of the complaint (we want more gear to be designed around their tails, not erase them). I would prefer they just clip, personally. And I refuse to use any and all headgear that removes our ears, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    I have to believe this is their response to criticism about the way tails clip in certain gear, but I know I'm not alone when I say, uh... this isn't the solution lol. It's an outright misunderstanding of the complaint (we want more gear to be designed around their tails, not erase them). I would prefer they just clip, personally. And I refuse to use any and all headgear that removes our ears, sorry.
    The way tails should be treated is how they worked in 1.0, where the miqo'te gear had actual finished holes for the tails. For most gear all that means they need a "piece" that can be set invisible, and all would be good. Look at how Wuk Lamat's outfit works.



    That is how it SHOULD work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    I have to believe this is their response to criticism about the way tails clip in certain gear, but I know I'm not alone when I say, uh... this isn't the solution lol. It's an outright misunderstanding of the complaint (we want more gear to be designed around their tails, not erase them). I would prefer they just clip, personally. And I refuse to use any and all headgear that removes our ears, sorry.
    Criticism that popped up due to the damn capes, because capes looks atrocious with the tails and instead of hiding the capes. They hid the tail... And certain people cheered it on...

    Even then, in this case the clipping is merely the tiny doodad on the back.

    Also here have some random cape and cloak examples. What doesn't work and what works.
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    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 07-04-2024 at 04:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Criticism that popped up due to the damn capes, because capes looks atrocious with the tails and instead of hiding the capes. They hid the tail... And certain people cheered it on...

    Even then, in this case the clipping is merely the tiny doodad on the back.

    It's funny cause you can remove clipping on capes by just deleting the geometry the tail would be in the way of. And having the capes on tail races be given a W shape instead of a U shape. They make ear pockets for miqo'te helms but can't have a slit in the cape for miqote capes? Ah well... the race is more favored than Viera area at least. I'm still waiting on helms and hats. An entire slot wasted for glamour 90% of the time a helm drops for me.

    Honestly it is a bit of a crime the miqo'te fluffy tail didn't get a proper 3D model with the character overhaul either. It's still just two 2D textures cross sectioned into each other to give the illusion of a 3D object. This is stuff that the N64 may have called "advanced" at one point in time back in the 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusarae View Post
    They make ear pockets for miqo'te helms
    They don't do that anymore actually. Hats have been amputating miqo'te ears for years now.
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    ~sigh~

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    Conant Sivrha
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Criticism that popped up due to the damn capes, because capes looks atrocious with the tails and instead of hiding the capes. They hid the tail... And certain people cheered it on...
    Tailed races shouldn't be prevented from wearing capes, either. "Just remove the capes" is the same logic that led to invisible hats on viera. There should be a gap in the cape for the tail, or the tail should be under the cape. Having an option to change our tail position to wrap it around our waists saiyan style would also be fun.

    So many things that could've been done, but instead, we have the worst two choices: clipping (through the cape), and clipping (off the tail).

    The gear in the original post is a real head scratcher, too. They only would've needed to shorten that silver part in the middle of the two white coattail-looking-things to make a perfect opening for a tail. Really, it almost looks like the item was originally designed for tails, and the extended silver part with the light is just there to cover the tail gap for tailless races. I'd like to know the thought process behind this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusarae View Post
    Honestly it is a bit of a crime the miqo'te fluffy tail didn't get a proper 3D model with the character overhaul either. It's still just two 2D textures cross sectioned into each other to give the illusion of a 3D object. This is stuff that the N64 may have called "advanced" at one point in time back in the 90's.
    I second this. I'm surprised it isn't mentioned more often.
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    Last edited by ConantSivrha; 07-04-2024 at 04:52 PM. Reason: Forgot to quote and respond to the second post

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConantSivrha View Post
    The gear in the original post is a real head scratcher, too. They only would've needed to shorten that silver part in the middle of the two white coattail-looking-things to make a perfect opening for a tail. Really, it almost looks like the item was originally designed for tails, and the extended silver part with the light is just there to cover the tail gap for tailless races. I'd like to know the thought process behind this.

    And would it have been so much effort to add tail armor? Almost half the playable races have tails so having some tron looking whip as tail would have worked here. Like Charr get in gw2 https://imgur.com/a/major-tail-changes-mMKRcYu


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    I honestly believe that GW2 has the higher skilled Developers and Programmers.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.