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    CottonC's Avatar
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    Alice Cottoncloud
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I don't mind being a side character to someone else's story as long as I feel like I'm having an affect on the story. Our character at this point basically had their main story play out, It would of been cool if we took on more of a Gandalf role in the story.

    A mentor to Wuk and Krile. While the story would focus on them we are key in their development being a mentor and a protector. I thought this would be how we would fit into the story tbh, They both have to learn something in their story. Wuk has to learn to be a leader while Krile has just entered the adventurer role.
    Would of been cool to actually feel like a seasoned adventurer whose passing on knowledge while also seeking adventure.
    They way you described how it could have been does sound actually like an amazing experience. It's a shame we are a figurehead, smiling and nodding and honestly each time my WoL smiles it felt like it was kinda condescending smile to a child who thinks they know and yet you do not want to correct them, too tired of speaking to someone who won't listen. Perhaps this was just my imagination. Honestly, it may sound like someone saying "they took my toys away from me" but it sort of feels like this, anything fun anything enjoyable that could have happened in the story was in some way taken away, and while I understand the mentoring part, it could have been handled in all sorts of ways where we as a character have things to do, rather then passively watch. The passive part was the opposite of relaxing, it felt like someone forced me to stay put - and this only made the usual not saying much and nodding a lot WoL experience painful. Before Downtrail it was at a times underwhelming, yet good enough but this time around when there was no space for any actions or meaningful interactions, the "voiceless" WoL experience feel not far away from the despair mentioned by the Endsinger.

    Honestly, I wish it was just a April fools day
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CottonC View Post
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    Spoilers ahead but heres how I would restructure the story without changing the main stuff that happens to incorporate this more.

    Wuk Lamat would never have her strength questioned, from the beginning I would make it that her main flaw she needs us to help her fix is her being a bad leader. In the early zones I would change it to her learning no lessons about the cultures of the people and instead you do all of the work then with your first meeting with Gulool Ja Ja after the trials start he specfically calls Wuk out on this and that she needs to learn from your example. Then I would change Wuk Lamat kidnapping scene to instead her walking the party into an ambush then Krile would get overwhelmed or would freeze up, you or Erenville would tell Wuk she needs to protect Krile but in her anger she ignores that and it leads to Krile being kidnapped. She still loses her piece of candy.
    After this incident the WoL straight up tells her shes not fit to be the Dawnservant, the fact she couldn't focus on protecting a friend in combat due to her anger and arrogance means she could not protect a nation of people. This would lead into her roleplaying event instead of her becoming stronger or whatever its also not a solo fight and when playing as Wuk Lamat you have to focus on defending those who are fighting with you.

    For Krile she throughout the story would have low confidence in her Pictomancy and would feel like a burden, the WoL would constantly be giving her advice and trying to motivate her with her goal of finding out about her grandfather's reason of being in Tural. She is clearly the weakest link in the party for most of the story but as time goes on she starts getting more confident in her abilities after each dungeon. Then in the Solution 9 event instead of playing as the WoL you play as Krile and this is her moment to shine, when Otis is defending Sephene, Krile uses a LB to beat the enrage and after this shes confident in herself even if she still has a lot to learn.
    I would also make Erenvelle an Arcanist so he can heal/dps in duty support, his main flaw is his unwillingness to open up. Krile and Wuk are both unaware of his feelings but the WoL instantly notices it and throughout the story you slowly prod at him to reveal whats on his mind until he opens up after the attack on Solution 9.

    I would hope all of these would give Wuk, Krile and Erenvelle each moments to shine. Then in the final trial its your moment to shine and your main character moment of the expansion. Wuk, Krile and Erenville all pop up after you finish the trial. This can also lead into post-patch storyline having further developments for Wuk, it becomes clear that during her rule as Dawnservant she becomes over rellaint on your council so the post-patch is now about you teaching Wuk to rely less on you.
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    Last edited by Ramiee; 07-04-2024 at 09:09 PM.

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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I would also make Erenvelle an Arcanist so he can heal/dps in duty support.
    I'm like 99% sure, based on the ending, that they're setting him up to be a Beastmaster. Though they definitely could've used Arcanist/Summoner as the base and just have all his "summons" be different monsters.
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