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  1. #751
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    Voidmage's Avatar
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Twintania
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    Blue Mage Lv 47
    Quote Originally Posted by Argasun View Post
    I actually said "NO!!!!" when she insisted on walking around the second city with us. Seriously? I can't even do that on my own? Or choose who I hang out with? Every time I thought I'd had enough, there she was again. It almost ruins Tuliyollal for me because I know she's probably at the wol's door every three seconds.
    Wuk Lamat really is a cat. They also follow their owner to the toilet.

    The sad thing is. I can actually see some character development and wanted to like her.
    The story itself is quite solid to good and has massive potential but gets drown by Wuk Lamat.
    I was almost crying when alisaie and graha ere allowed to run away exploring in the cyberpunk city because I knew I would be stuck with her again.

    I‘m sorry to say this but putting a new character this much in the focus of a story with an established team is such a beginner writer mistake.
    The scions gushing over her (how much she grew, how awesome she is) in between the missions were you can talk to them and almost all our dialogue choices afirming her awesomeness really soured her for me.

    I have read many many books in my life and this writing here is really far down in my opinion.

    Given the rigid schedule of square in the development I shudder to think of the other storylines (raids, 7.1 story, field mission, relics)

    If this is the best they can do without Ishikawa then this game is losing the one thing it was praised for.

    Unlike other stuff like jobs, gameplay and so on there are actually quit many negative voices this time.

    I actually unsubed today (still have around 60 days of playtime) and if there is no acknowledgement of the devs or the other story stay this bad then this will be my last expansion since Heavensward.
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  2. #752
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Well to be fair, the tank community has been calling WAR braindead and overpowered for years, so kinda fits, she rolls warrior, rolls face, wins fight
    - Wuk Lamat
    - Undefeatable, loved by all, wins fights through sheer willpower and ‘family’
    - Becomes ruler of an entire country
    - Literal star of the show
    - is a Warrior

    Are these things coincidence? I think not!

    SE is secretly trying to make us worship Warriors as gods so they have don’t have to rebalance them. Nothing will ever change my mind on this definitely very real conclusion I have made.

    (Seriously though, it is a little sus lol)
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  3. #753
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    Larom's Avatar
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    Isabel Shepard
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    Marilith
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    Lancer Lv 61
    The metacritic reviews are sketchy. I left a negative review and it got deleted. Short sweet review with no spoilers or language. Deleted within 5 minutes. Is this normal for Metacritic?
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  4. #754
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    Fluxating's Avatar
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    Cali Oran
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    Odin
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Larom View Post
    The metacritic reviews are sketchy. I left a negative review and it got deleted. Short sweet review with no spoilers or language. Deleted within 5 minutes. Is this normal for Metacritic?
    Yes, metacritic hasn't been trustworthy for years.
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  5. #755
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    Isabel Shepard
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluxating View Post
    Yes, metacritic hasn't been trustworthy for years.
    Thank you for the info. I couldn't find a positive review than didn't sound like a robot or had spelling that was at or exceeded elementary school. Makes sense that it'd be considered untrustworthy.
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  6. #756
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    Beatrice Castiglioni
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    While I didn't like Wuk, I wouldn't attribute DT's suckage solely to her.
    The story is far too repetitive and mundane. The pacing is horrendous. Every time something interesting is happening we get pulled out and set to do some tedious stuff instead.
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  7. 07-04-2024 07:50 AM
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    I don't care anymore.

  8. #757
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    Nanchi's Avatar
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    Noah Zephyr
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    Omega
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    Reaper Lv 100
    How do I get Wuk Lamat to stop crawling up my Wols a**hole? I can't go 2 seconds without this woman breathing down my neck.

    I say this with the utmost respect, as much I enjoy the genki trope (and therefore immensely enjoyed whenever our original Yda had a bit of screentime) Wuk is by far the worst realization of that trope. Pretentious, self-righteous, hot-headed and immature for being the ruler of Tural. The comedy relief loses its effect after a while and it really doesn't help that this godawful character gets shoved down our throats. I cannot talk to Alphinaud for a minute without her monopolizing my Wols space. Erenville gets to say one sentence before she takes over all focus. Krille is literally forgotten for 80% of the expansion because we have to babysit Wuk Lamat. There is 0 agency in the plot itself, nothing we do matters in the grand scheme of things, you're forced from point a to point b to learn about Turals citizens which wouldn't be nearly as much of a slog if the game gave you some breathing room to explore plot points with other characters, god forbid, but no our Wols only role is to be Wuk Lamats personal hype man.

    I almost cried tears of joy after the rite of succession was over, thinking the story takes a turn for the good now but no, the brief respite you get for 1 questchain gets thrown out of the window for another half assed character they introduce later down the line.
    I've enjoyed every expansion so far, some more than others but I still go back to do NG+, Dawntrail is the first time since ARR where I've skipped dialogue, it wasn't engaging, nothing had meaning, the characters we come to know and love are void of any personality and if the only trait the token MC of the expansion has is "We want peace and happiness! And I WILL force my way upon you!" then you desperately need more time to flesh out your writing because this was not it.
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    Last edited by Nanchi; 07-04-2024 at 08:28 AM. Reason: Yda typo

  9. #758
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I think one of the things that some didn't like is you the WoL are not the main character in this expansion your MC role has been taken over by Wuk Lamat. When previously the WoL was always the main character and it was their story. You as the WoL are a side kick or companion to Wuk Lamat. The amount of screen time Wuk Lamat gets is a lot so you better love this character. If WuK Lamat was Tidus she would say "This is my story!"

    But this is suppose to be billed as the vacation expansion so maybe it is okay to take a back seat to other characters.
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  10. #759
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post

    But this is suppose to be billed as the vacation expansion so maybe it is okay to take a back seat to other characters.
    No, this is never okay. We are the playable character in an RPG story. We should be the protagonist. We should never be less than a side character as we are now.
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  11. #760
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Beatriche View Post
    While I didn't like Wuk, I wouldn't attribute DT's suckage solely to her.
    The story is far too repetitive and mundane. The pacing is horrendous. Every time something interesting is happening we get pulled out and set to do some tedious stuff instead.
    This was a hallmark of XVI as well. There is a clear and obvious problem with this dev team. SE trusting them with new games is very questionable.

    I understand the idea of highs and lows but their idea of lows is to bore the player out of their mind with repetitive world and character building.
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