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    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    While I'm not loving the story so far? They said multiple times it was a new story arc. If players did not lower their expectations? Then that is entirely on them. I still see people hoping for the ancients and Allagans. What part of "end" do people not understand?
    And I'm not saying this to "defend" anything as people with Reddit-debate brain would accuse me here. I'm saying this because it shows how poor people are at listening and comprehending words.

    Also, I remember YoshiP saying that if people like this, then it may be part of a future arc. By the reviews here I'm assuming it won't be. So I'm hopeful they have other stories or a better way to use these zones in the future. The issue with StB is we helped these people and barely spoke or worked with them again. I can't help but feel that's what is about to happen here.
    If that's the case, how would Yoshi-P know that people dislike DT if they are not very vocal about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    If that's the case, how would Yoshi-P know that people dislike DT if they are not very vocal about it?
    I'm curious if he hears the kind of feedback we're seeing on this forum or not. Do they even read the English forums? I hope he sees people are not happy with the writing this expansion.

    The dungeon/trial designers are excellent however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    I'm curious if he hears the kind of feedback we're seeing on this forum or not. Do they even read the English forums? I hope he sees people are not happy with the writing this expansion.

    The dungeon/trial designers are excellent however.
    Thankfully, even if they ignore the EN side, the JP side is even more furious and brutal than we are right now. Some of the stuff they're posting about the story... Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Thankfully, even if they ignore the EN side, the JP side is even more furious and brutal than we are right now. Some of the stuff they're posting about the story... Man.
    Oh really? I haven't tried to read the JP reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    Oh really? I haven't tried to read the JP reviews.
    The JP offical forums pretty neutral, there's like 2 post saying they don't think the story is good that's it. It's the unofficial forums where the JP community are flaming the shit out the game. I think it's cause the JP official forum community really hold someone to stuff they say on the forum, like they get mass reported and harassed etc for stating an unpopular opinion. I'm taking that from reading some post where they say things along the lines, of I'm not trying to be rude so do not report etc, the wording is constantly on the fence as if to avoid trouble, where as here we're mouthy AF. People be throwing hands on the EU forums :'D
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    Last edited by Malthir; 07-03-2024 at 10:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    The JP offical forums pretty neutral, there's like 2 post saying they don't think the story is good that's it. It's the unofficial forums where the JP community are flaming the shit out the game. I think it's cause the JP official forum community really hold someone to stuff they say on the forum, like they get mass reported and harassed etc for stating an unpopular opinion. I'm taking that from reading some post where they say things along the lines, of I'm not trying to be rude so do not report etc, the wording is constantly on the fence as if to avoid trouble, where as here we're mouthy AF. People be throwing hands on the EU forums :'D
    Reading this thread, even through google translate is pretty interesting.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6
    Quite a few people mention, that the pacing is bad, with too much filler and unnecessary cutscenes and not enough actual adventuring. Some people also mention that characters introduced in the expansion are bland and uniteresting. Some say that plot is predictable and boring. Some people also dislike Wuk Lamat. Some say she's childish, some say it feels like she belong in the shonen manga instead of ffxiv, one poster was saying that they dislike that Wuk's the main character and not you the WoL, who is relegated to the support character role who only follows her around and nods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Reading this thread, even through google translate is pretty interesting.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6
    Quite a few people mention, that the pacing is bad, with too much filler and unnecessary cutscenes and not enough actual adventuring. Some people also mention that characters introduced in the expansion are bland and uniteresting. Some say that plot is predictable and boring. Some people also dislike Wuk Lamat. Some say she's childish, some say it feels like she belong in the shonen manga instead of ffxiv, one poster was saying that they dislike that Wuk's the main character and not you the WoL, who is relegated to the support character role who only follows her around and nods.
    Man. They must be close to the end of the story then, because where I'm at, we don't even get nods. Or even camera time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Reading this thread, even through google translate is pretty interesting.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6
    Quite a few people mention, that the pacing is bad, with too much filler and unnecessary cutscenes and not enough actual adventuring. Some people also mention that characters introduced in the expansion are bland and uniteresting. Some say that plot is predictable and boring. Some people also dislike Wuk Lamat. Some say she's childish, some say it feels like she belong in the shonen manga instead of ffxiv, one poster was saying that they dislike that Wuk's the main character and not you the WoL, who is relegated to the support character role who only follows her around and nods.
    Went through the whole thread. It was an interesting read on their side. They seem to agree on the pacing and actually Wuk Lamat having to much screen time. Also stealing the show with Sphene, truly disappointed them. I really hope YohiP will conduct some changes within the writer department. They really overdid the amount of voiced and non-voiced cutscenes this time around.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 07-04-2024 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    If that's the case, how would Yoshi-P know that people dislike DT if they are not very vocal about it?
    You know what's funny? I literally wrote that my post wasn't a defense, but you all still couldn't help yourselves. I never wrote that people shouldn't be vocal about it at all. Can you see my post history? I just stated that the people expecting any elements that we loved in the old stories (Ancients, allagans, etc) should not have done that.
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