Is it time for your WOL to retire? DT Story discussion

[arstoka]

The thing about the WOL is that they love to help people and travel. Those are their two core, defining features (at least from a canon perspective). I would have appreciated the the laid back nature of the expac if we weren't babysitting the entire time and were doing actual fun things to build up the world around us.

Helping the locals solve problems instead of going there to do the feats, for one. We know the WOL isn't going to have any issues taking on the tasks but I still like the prospect of being unknown in our stature as we do what we do best. It would be more refreshing then the world coming at us time and time again to use as a tool to slay their enemies...which is what this expac was going for but severely missed its mark.

There's nothing wrong with being a companion in another NPC's story, so long as we still have some agency and the NPC is likeable. I was temporarily happier when we left the first part of the story for new climes, new people, new companions that could, reasonably, hold their own.

Alternatively, it hasn't been fully explored but, we're the Savior of the Star, killed literal Gods, Demons, and Royalty alike. Why not explore the negative side of being the greatest hero in history? Why not have enemies we've made in the past scheme to try and hurt or harm us through other means (such as attacking friends and loved ones). Why not have challenger after challenger approach us for fights? Have nations attempt to persuade us to joining them to settle disputes or coerce them to bending the knee? There's so much more political drama an intrigue that can be had with a character this way.

We've saved the world, now what? Surely not everyone in the world can see us the same way.

(Also I wholly agree with the point about the Azem Crystal. It's over stayed its welcome and should have gone at the end of SHB. There's no reason to have it if we have bonifide other means of gathering travelling companions for a fight AND it cheapens the ending of SHB even more by its continual use.)

[Daralii]

Another option would be to make the rest of the world stronger. The Studium fishing questline established that all the aether used to create and used by Zodiark is pouring back into the world and will increase the ambient levels closer to what they were before the Sundering, and there are plenty of possible ways to justify why a sundered Ancient(who already has an extra reflection merged) would notice it less.

[GrizzlyTank]

Legs still work. So no.

[Tsumdere]

I personally would become a professional cutscene skipper if my WoL continued a similar role to the one they held in DT. There are many ways to keep the WoL in check that doesn't require nerfing them or retiring them. It would just require thought to be put into the narrative.

The first one that comes to mind is a massive weakness of the WoL: There is only one of them.
In a situation where there is constant split pressure, the WoL's work would be cut out for them as numbers can take on stronger powers. None of the other characters/factions could solely rely on the WoL to always come save the day either.

[OliviaLugria]

I wouldn't mind a power sap, apparently some would.

I also wouldn't mind a link to the past dark world or ff5 alt world where it turns out we were playing on easy mode and there's reflections that are just stright up on a higher power level. Maybe have like 2 reflections merged so everyone there is stronger.

Azem's crystal should also be a plot point. Would live a plot point about it breaking/not working in a solo instance or having it be stolen by the enemies.

Also liked the idea of the arcs involving everyone wanting us for their army or leaders trying to use us. In their eyes we just crowned a ruler.

[DrForester]

I think the Warrior of Light's time is over. But not in a bad way.

Endwalker was the end of the Warrior of Light's duty. They saved the world, stopped the Ascians, and learned of their legacy.

It started with the 6.X patches, and very much continued throughout Dawntrail, especially with the plot hook at the end.

We're going what Emet wanted us to do now. We're Azem now. And carrying out their legacy is our story now. Everything we were told about the Azem of old was that they were a traveler and helped people. Not that they were the focus. And that's what I see us setting out to do now. We're exploring. We're seeing all that there is to see, with old friends and new.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I'd like to flaunt being a total bad-ass for a while before being depowered. We already had a depowering in the story before, so I'm not in a rush to relive that.

I think there are still ways they can write challenges for us, or at least an exciting adventure with better characters.

We have other shards, other forms of life out there in space with unknown power levels, maybe more undiscovered or explored areas with unknown dangers, etc.

As far as retiring? What would the point of the game be? I'd rather not just have my character retire - he's still in his prime.

[DiaDeem]

no

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Yes, not much, if anything, can be more of a threat than Meteion.

Still, Superman as well is clearly more powerful than most other things on Earth but still he tries not to take center stage, allowing other normal humans to stand up for themselves and not rely on him all the time.

The WoL could take a similar direction.

Difference is, people respect and fear Superman.

No one gives a shit about the WoL, for some reason.

[Somnolence]

I think the problem is....what threat tops what we've already faced.

Evil versions of WoL and Scions from parallel dimension.

Tbh it would be interesting to see antagonist that uses exactly same appearance data as our character.