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  1. #611
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    Tehmon's Avatar
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Stomblood was Lyse's story. Heavensward (especially for the first half) was Alphinauds's story.
    Even if that was true (which it really isn't), in Heavensward Haurchefant's death while defending WoL makes them personally involved in the story, and is arguably the first time when WoL has personal stakes in the story, wanting revenge.

    In Stormblood however, Zenos becomes a personal rival that pushes WoL to their limit, giving them an incentive to see through this liberation of Ala Mhigo and Doma as Zenos is heavily involved.

    No similar hook exists in Dawntrail to make it feel that WoL has personal stakes and interests that intertwine with the story of the main NPCs. Not in a similar fashion as previous expansions, at least.
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    Cali Oran
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    I was neutral on Wuk Lamat in 6.55, but as Dawntrail progressed I started to hate her more and more for many of the reason people have already stated in this topic. I've pretty much lost interest in the expansion story as a whole, I'm at the lv 96 MSQ quests and I'm debating just skipping past the rest of the story for the first time since starting this game.
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  3. #613
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    Alice Cottoncloud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluxating View Post
    I was neutral on Wuk Lamat in 6.55, but as Dawntrail progressed I started to hate her more and more for many of the reason people have already stated in this topic. I've pretty much lost interest in the expansion story as a whole, I'm at the lv 96 MSQ quests and I'm debating just skipping past the rest of the story for the first time since starting this game.
    It only gets worse, at least to me it did and avoiding any spoilers let just say - once Wuk Lamat was done with me I was not even sure if I have strength to keep FF XIV on or do anything within the game. I just felt exhausted. Disappointed. Bored. I mean as someone said earlier, if I had any trouble understanding what the End Singers disperse was, I know now. She was trying to save WoL and the world from Wuk Lamat and we stopped her. It's on us.
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  4. #614
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    Folsom Chauser
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    Even if that was true (which it really isn't), in Heavensward Haurchefant's death while defending WoL makes them personally involved in the story, and is arguably the first time when WoL has personal stakes in the story, wanting revenge.

    In Stormblood however, Zenos becomes a personal rival that pushes WoL to their limit, giving them an incentive to see through this liberation of Ala Mhigo and Doma as Zenos is heavily involved.

    No similar hook exists in Dawntrail to make it feel that WoL has personal stakes and interests that intertwine with the story of the main NPCs. Not in a similar fashion as previous expansions, at least.
    Yep. Haruchefant died, and we wanted revenge, not just for him, but for Edmont, too. When Ysayle died, I had to sit quietly at my computer for a long time before moving on.

    If Wuk Lamat died, I would be sorely tempted to congratulate whoever killed her. Because, and yes, this is mean, the only personal stake and interest I have in her is how annoying she is. If the 7.X patches leave Tuliyollal and never speak of it again, I will actually be ecstatic. At this point, Dawntrail doesn't need to be the start of an arc. It needs to be its own little expansion, neat and tidily wrapped up with a bow, so we can have a real beginning of a story arc in the next expansion (or in the post-expansion patches).
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  5. #615
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Wuk Lumat is the Jar Jar Binks of FFXIV.

    "Wuk Lamat is the key to all this, if we get Wuk Lamat working. 'Cause she's a funnier character than we've ever had in the games."
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  6. #616
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    Isabel Shepard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Wuk Lumat is the Jar Jar Binks of FFXIV.

    "Wuk Lamat is the key to all this, if we get Wuk Lamat working. 'Cause she's a funnier character than we've ever had in the games."
    "Hopefully it'll work.."
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  7. #617
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Learning Bakool Ja Ja's backstory and motives... Man, I would've backed him as Dawnservant had I known these things.
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  8. #618
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Stapler-san View Post
    this is unreal
    im going insane
    Maybe that's the goal. To make the WoL (and us lol) slowly go insane. Why that should be a goal however, I don't know. Yet.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

  9. #619
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    Maybe that's the goal. To make the WoL (and us lol) slowly go insane. Why that should be a goal however, I don't know. Yet.
    Dawntrail is surely making me want to finish what Emet-Selch, Lahabrea and Elidibus started.
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  10. #620
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    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stapler-san View Post
    this is unreal
    im going insane
    Pray return to the Wuking Sands.
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