Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Sonoskay]

Mate i havent even been here but a cursory glance shows me you're now whining about exactly what you did, People have their opinions and you came in here trying to invalidate their opinions as just "Drama, Hatred and just what this forum does" You're welcome to disagree with them, but like the last guy who posted as much as you in defensive an argumentative ways, your opinions are not going to change our opinions.

Actually no.
I made 2 posts that were not responses to me.
The first, on page 41. And the second on page 52, where someone said that anyone who likes wuk is either stupid or sexually aroused by her. Which is patently rediculous.


Most everyone else is a response to people putting words in my mouth. Or defending the weirdo who said some weird shit. With *ONE* exception Who just seemed to wanted to bring up Wuk has a lot of heat on her, and thats its probably for a reason, WHich is fair.

Shoot, even now, we have 3 people, all who don't seem to like dawntrail, talking past each other because they can't agree on the right way to dislike dawntrail.
Furthermore, if you don't know what's going on, why are you quoting me and saying "no, you!"

Edit: it seems I misunderstood part of the exchange, In the last page or so. So Ill eat crow here. It probably wasn't necessary to bring them up in a exchange from 4 pages ago anyway.

[SirShady]

Shoot, even now, we have 3 people, all who don't seem to like dawntrail, talking past eachother because they can't agree on the right way to dislike dawntrail. Furthermore, if you don't know what's going on, why are you quoting me and saying "no, you!"

If you're referring to me and Remilia, we're both discussing our problems with the story while Abriael, a Dawntrail enjoyer, accuses us of "distorting reality" and lying about what happens/our opinions.

Sorry you're being ridiculed for liking Wuk Lamat. This is a forum and we should all be allowed to voice our opinions without being dismissed and insulted.

[Banriikku]

Wuk Lamat is a good idea but nothing more. Her thinking, her growth, her fears and so forth are not shown, not even explained - despite DT beeingh the "tell and dont show xpac".
We know almost nothing of her and what very little we do know has no connections emotional or lore wise. I dont hate her for the same reason i dont like her : i have no connection to her at all. She is there to "win without effort or journey". Wuk Lamat is a "Red Shirt" with plotarmor.

She is the embodiment of instant gratification.

All other charcters, this includes us, except Erenvill and Krile for a small part are tools to give the player information dumps - a storytelling sin. All charcters can be cut out, even we are not there. We are watching, as if this is Netflix and we have no sway over what is happening. We do not teach or mentor her.

Also this whole story has plotholes big enough to fit a planet. Also her Eng VA is a misscast and in contrast her Jap VA is absolute amazing. To make it clear the eng VA is a good VA but not for this role also the writing did not help at all.

[FemmeFatale]

I'm just so tired of every, single, fucking time we have to split up as a group or do individual tasks, it's always me and Wuk Lamat.
Girl, please leave me alone for 5 minutes, mentoring you at first was novel, but now I am literally babysitting you and it's not cute anymore.

[SwadTheFrog]

I'm just so tired of every, single, fucking time we have to split up as a group or do individual tasks, it's always me and Wuk Lamat.
Girl, please leave me alone for 5 minutes, mentoring you at first was novel, but now I am literally babysitting you and it's not cute anymore.

I think an actually good example to illustrate how frustrating that is, would be to apply to everyone else. What if everytime you split up in the previous MSQ, it was ALWAYS with Alphinaud, or Urianger, or Y'Shtola, or anyone else. Sure, those characters are nice, but it'd get old QUICK, doubly so for a whole goddamn expansion.

[ZodaSoda]

I think an actually good example to illustrate how frustrating that is, would be to apply to everyone else. What if everytime you split up in the previous MSQ, it was ALWAYS with Alphinaud, or Urianger, or Y'Shtola, or anyone else. Sure, those characters are nice, but it'd get old QUICK, doubly so for a whole goddamn expansion.

Even certain cutscenes are like, Look everyone reacting to something, "Zoom in on Wuk Lamat"

[FemmeFatale]

What if everytime you split up in the previous MSQ, it was ALWAYS with Alphinaud, or Urianger, or Y'Shtola, or anyone else. Sure, those characters are nice, but it'd get old QUICK, doubly so for a whole goddamn expansion.

Yes and no.

We work well with scions, we all fill in eachothers weaknesses.

If we're with Alphinaud, he's the brains, we're the brawn.

If we're with Estinien we're subconciously competing with eachother, same with Alisae, there's a rivalry of sorts that keeps pushing us to do better.

Wuk Lamat is.... well... uhm... She's smart--- no, her brother has already been called the clever one.

She's stron--.. no she gets bodied at every chance she gets apart from that one time where she was receiving plot armor allowing her to LB spam.

''But her character development!!'' .. What fucking development? She cares about her people? that basic human instinct to care? what a novel concept, a leader who has to care for her people, doubly so in trying times. My god, what a novel concept, that's brilliant, best writing ever, 10/10.

[Banriikku]

Something to point out, not necessarily pointed at Wuk Lamat alone, but there are a lot of instances where lore/rules is ignored or retconned?
A couple of examples: Aether? Do not fight eachother? Alphi is the only healer? Linkpearl are affected by a solar storm i guess, Final days?
Something personal: Wuk is a WAR ? If so: HOW THE KUPO YOU ARE SO DAMN WEAK?

[SwadTheFrog]

Yes and no.

We work well with scions, we all fill in eachothers weaknesses.

If we're with Alphinaud, he's the brains, we're the brawn.

If we're with Estinien we're subconciously competing with eachother, same with Alisae, there's a rivalry of sorts that keeps pushing us to do better.

Wuk Lamat is.... well... uhm... She's smart--- no, her brother has already been called the clever one.

She's stron--.. no she gets bodied at every chance she gets apart from that one time where she was receiving plot armor allowing her to LB spam.

''But her character development!!'' .. What fucking development? She cares about her people? that basic human instinct to care? what a novel concept, a leader who has to care for her people, doubly so in trying times. My god, what a novel concept, that's brilliant, best writing ever, 10/10.

Oh, no. Trust me, I intensely dislike Wuk as a character anyway. But the situation would be at least a bit better if she wasn't forced on you nonstop. My point is, if even with well-written characters it'd get old, then with not-so-well written characters...

[FemmeFatale]

Oh, no. Trust me, I intensely dislike Wuk as a character anyway. But the situation would be at least a bit better if she wasn't forced on you nonstop. My point is, if even with well-written characters it'd get old, then with not-so-well written characters...

Yeah it would.

It's just become such a meme at this point whenever the group does anything, I'm at the level 96 Quests, the story has picked up but whenever it comes to a situation we split up.. I'm muttering under my breathe ''Here it comes, any second, I wonder who I'll get paired with!'' knowing full well it's Wuk Lamat, it's honestly making me extremely annoyed now, just let me be with other members of the group, please. I beg, let me go and pick up flying dinosaur shit again, anything!