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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Maybe. Your interpretation of events is still soft-modern drivel tho. We are talking about characters who saved the entire universe by battling despair itself. Apparently, despite this they are unable to "break the ice" with their own relatives and need help from a cat person they just met and they need treats to be able to talk to each other.

    Sorry, it's just nonsense. I swear the plotline could be made into a season of Dora the Explorer and it would fit perfectly.
    "soft-modern drivel" lol. What a silly way to try (and utterly fail) to defend clear-cut dishonesty.

    Krile meets her parents who had to leave her behind and who she had zero memories of after 20 years. And they're not even alive anymore.


    If you think that's not 100% natural that they need help breaking the ice, you don't know a thing about human behavior (or storytelling portraying such). But let's be frank, you know that very well. You're just being disingenuous to try (and again fail) to defend the dishonesty that permeates this thread.

    Some people have absolutely no shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "soft-modern drivel" lol. What a silly way to try (and utterly fail) to defend clear-cut dishonesty.

    Krile meets her parents who had to leave her behind and who she had zero memories of after 20 years. And they're not even alive anymore.


    If you think that's not 100% natural that they need help breaking the ice, you don't know a thing about human behavior (or storytelling portraying such). But let's be frank, you know that very well. You're just being disingenuous to try (and again fail) to defend the dishonesty that permeates this thread.

    Some people have absolutely no shame.
    You are so absolutely pretentious dude it's insane. Krile's random friend having to go and get them ice cream in order for them to have a conversation with each other is incredibly weird. If I had just met my parents for the first time in 20 years I'd absolutely have things to say and ask them. Graha having to go and scarf down ice cream in front of them in order to make them giggle, only for the scene to FADE TO BLACK BEFORE THEY EVEN START TALKING shows just how infantile and uncreative this writing has become.

    Stop dismissing everyone's opinion as disingenuous. People have different opinions than yours. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "soft-modern drivel" lol. What a silly way to try (and utterly fail) to defend clear-cut dishonesty.

    Krile meets her parents who had to leave her behind and who she had zero memories of after 20 years. And they're not even alive anymore.


    If you think that's not 100% natural that they need help breaking the ice, you don't know a thing about human behavior (or storytelling portraying such). But let's be frank, you know that very well. You're just being disingenuous to try (and again fail) to defend the dishonesty that permeates this thread.

    Some people have absolutely no shame.
    Whether I am failing or not is frankly not up to you to decide. You are clearly biased against my arguments, so failure or success of my arguments should not be yours to decide (in the same way I cannot say whether YOUR arguments are succeeding or failing, I am just responding to them).

    Not sure why you think I am dishonest tho.

    I still stand by what I said about Krile. Especially if she had zero memories of her parents, why would she even care? What's difficult about breaking the ice with people who are, for all intents and purposes, strangers?

    Remember, we are still talking about people who - directly or indirectly - faced off against the biggest threats and found themselves in the most uncomfortable situations ever. This situation should not even remotely faze them, no matter how daunting it would be for a normal, "real world" person.
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  4. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Whether I am failing or not is frankly not up to you to decide. You are clearly biased against my arguments, so failure or success of my arguments should not be yours to decide (in the same way I cannot say whether YOUR arguments are succeeding or failing, I am just responding to them).

    Not sure why you think I am dishonest tho.

    I still stand by what I said about Krile. Especially if she had zero memories of her parents, why would she even care? What's difficult about breaking the ice with people who are, for all intents and purposes, strangers?

    Remember, we are still talking about people who - directly or indirectly - faced off the biggest threats and found themselves in the most uncomfortable situations ever. This situation should not even remotely faze them, no matter how daunting it would be for a normal, "real world" person.
    He does this to everyone who doesn't like Dawntrail. He did the same thing to people, including myself, in the other thread saying I was being "disingenuous" because I didn't like the part of the story where...

    Zoraal Ja goes to the golden city and is gifted a deus ex machina sci-fi army to attack Tuliyollal with because of the deep and complex motive of "is evil".


    According to him that was the peak of fiction and anyone that didn't enjoy it obviously is "distorting reality" to not enjoy the MSQ.
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  5. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirShady View Post
    You are so absolutely pretentious dude it's insane.
    Ah yeah, another of those who have spent this thread spreading clear-cut lies about the way facts unfold in the story coming to the defense! Gotta circle these wagons!

    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    You are clearly biased against my arguments
    You never had an argument to begin with.

    The fact that you think that it's innatural that someone in Krile's situation to feel awkward is absolutely hilarious. Incidentally, if you actually had read Krile's script from way before this expansion, you'd know that your "faced off the biggest threats and found themselves in the most uncomfortable situations ever" rebuttal makes absolutely no sense when related to her and only identifies you as a cutscene-skipper.

    This thread becomes more and more pathetic (but also hilarious) with every page.
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  6. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Ah yeah, another of those who have spent this thread spreading clear-cut lies about the way facts unfold in the story coming to the defense!
    People voicing opinions that are different from yours are not lying. Stop sniffing your own farts and try conversing with other people.
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  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirShady View Post
    People voicing opinions that are different from yours are not lying. Stop sniffing your own farts and try conversing with other people.
    Conversation is useful only with people capable of understanding nuance, which you are not, not to mention with people who participate in said conversation honestly, which again, you are not. I'm not interested in conversing with someone who engages in revisionism to support false points beyond the scope of exposing their dishonesty.

    And since that is done, I'll go enjoy the ending of Dawntrail, which promises to be pretty damn awesome from the point of view of someone actually reading the script and not skipping 90% of the cutscenes because they irrationally hate a character.
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  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Conversation is useful only with people capable of understanding nuance, which you are not, not to mention with people who participate in said conversation honestly, which again, you are not. I'm not interested in conversing with someone who engages in revisionism to support false points beyond the scope of exposing their dishonesty.
    What an easy way to escape criticism and discussion. "You're dishonest and don't understand nuance". Doesn't actually address anything the other person has said regarding the actual subject matter. Bravo! Hey, I can do that too.

    You're a moron who doesn't understand the basics of storytelling and I'm here for discussion on the game, not just slinging personal attacks. Good day, sir.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And since that is done, I'll go enjoy the ending of Dawntrail, which promises to be pretty damn awesome from the point of view of someone actually reading the script and not skipping 90% of the cutscenes because they irrationally hate a character.
    Damn, I beat it last night after watching every cutscene and reading all the optional dialogue. Maybe we can discuss once you've caught up to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You never had an argument to begin with.

    The fact that you think that it's innatural that someone in Krile's situation to feel awkward is absolutely hilarious. Incidentally, if you actually had read Krile's script from way before this expansion, you'd know that your "faced off the biggest threats and found themselves in the most uncomfortable situations ever" rebuttal makes absolutely no sense when related to her and only identifies you as a cutscene-skipper.

    This thread becomes more and more pathetic (but also hilarious) with every page.
    I respectfully disagree; I have illustrated my points quite concisely, I think. I am sorry you were unable to grasp them. I have done all I could to make them easy for you to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I respectfully disagree; I have illustrated my points quite concisely, I think. I am sorry you were unable to grasp them. I have done all I could to make them easy for you to understand.
    This guy is a nutcase. What's more dishonest than claiming that someone is skipping cutscenes because they don't interpret them the same way you do? Hello? Not only is it dishonest, it's just genuinely stupid.
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