Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Elodie_Einsbern]

I hope that's actually true, if it should keep the twisted socio-political themes infecting modern Western entertainment out of FFXIV; however, based on this expansion, that appears to not be the case.

Well I don't want to go down the rabbit hole too much. But you have certain organizations and businesses trying to push the infection into Japan right now.

Example, right now you have certain groups with BRIDGE affiliations creating a school for teaching aspiring Anime creators how to appeal to Western society.

Basically, yes Japan entertainment is under full blown attack trying to get them to conform to what Western groups want. This company is not immune to it

[EdwinChucklenuts]

I hope that's actually true, if it keeps the twisted socio-political themes infecting modern Western entertainment out of FFXIV; however, based on this expansion, that appears to not be the case.

I think it's funny that it's always you people wanting the safe spaces you like to mock.

[mihai899]

Meteion and Feo Ul will save Dawntrail. Trust the plan, two more patches!

[scoopy]

Though I agree by saying that I'm not too fond of Wuk Lamat myself; this entire thread is full of weird pseudo-intellectuals cause I straight up just saw someone say to read Machiavelli and using Hitler as a 'great example' of another emotionally driven and impulsive leader. I'm too lazy to find where that reply was but it stuck with me lol.

Personally don't think Wuk Lamat's shortcomings as a leader/character warrants hitler being brought up but that's just my humble opinion :3

[CosmoBabylonia]

Though I agree by saying that I'm not too fond of Wuk Lamat myself; this entire thread is full of weird pseudo-intellectuals cause I straight up just saw someone say to read Machiavelli and using Hitler as a 'great example' of another emotionally driven and impulsive leader. I'm too lazy to find where that reply was but it stuck with me lol.

Personally don't think Wuk Lamat's shortcomings as a leader/character warrants hitler being brought up but that's just my humble opinion :3

Honestly I am now pretty sure that person is a troll and I got baited mid 2000s style. I respect your valid opinion.

[AnimaAnimus]

I think it's funny that it's always you people wanting the safe spaces you like to mock.

And for a group that thinks representation isn't important and we should all just get over it, they get really mad when they are the ones not being represented lol

[Sayo_]

Yeah I don't like Wuk Lamat at all but please don't throw my opinions with that of the guy that insults people for having dyed hair.

[Abriael]

wuk lamat is horrible and she keeps being horrible for the entirety of the msq from her incessant rambling on "FRIENDSHIP MAGIC UNDERSTANDING" to her voice.

**SPOILERS AHEAD**

Was so jarring towards the end when we meet the memories of krilles parents and we were about to get more insight into it just for wuk worthlessmat to barge in and be like "oh LETS GET SOME FOOD" good job killing all the suspane to do yet another mential worthless quest at the behest of wuk lamat

This is a perfect example of how many people around here are literally distorting reality just for the sake of disingenuously painting an incorrect picture of the character and storytelling to support a false point.

Here's how it actually goes.

Krile and her parents finally meet (it's complicated) and they're having trouble breaking the ice, so Wuk Lamat suggests to go get treats (we are at an amusement park, so it's perfectly appropriate) to give them some time alone, which is 100% the sensible thing to do. And after that, we get to hear Krile's parents' memories anyway.

So yeah, some people are engaging in pure revisionism. Either they skipped the cutscenes and they're bullsh*tting, or they're intentionally lying. That's pretty disgraceful.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

And for a group that thinks representation isn't important and we should all just get over it, they get really mad when they are the ones not being represented lol

Indeed, representation isn't important - mainly because "representation" could take many forms, but for some reason people feel only "represented" when only superficial characteristics are involved (sex, gender, skin colour, race etc.) rather than ideals, behaviours, morality and the like.

Representation is irrelevant. Good writing is what's important - and more often than not, the gaming industry as a whole is prioritising the former and forgetting about the latter, hoping that since a character is representing a minority they are also immune to criticism.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

This is a perfect example of how many people around here are literally distorting reality just for the sake of disingenuously painting an incorrect picture of the character and storytelling to support a false point.

Here's how it actually goes.

Krile and her parents finally meet (it's complicated) and they're having trouble breaking the ice, so Wuk Lamat suggests to go get treats (we are at an amusement park, so it's perfectly appropriate) to give them some time alone, which is 100% the sensible thing to do. And after that, we get to hear Krile's parents' memories anyway.

So yeah, some people are engaging in pure revisionism. Either they skipped the cutscenes and they're bullsh*tting, or they're intentionally lying. That's pretty disgraceful.

Maybe. Your interpretation of events is still soft-modern drivel tho. We are talking about characters who saved the entire universe by battling despair itself. Apparently, despite this they are unable to "break the ice" with their own relatives and need help from a cat person they just met and they need treats to be able to talk to each other.

Sorry, it's just nonsense. I swear the plotline could be made into a season of Dora the Explorer and it would fit perfectly.