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    Tethan's Avatar
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    Gale Eldingar
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
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    Couldn't have put it better.

    Another thing that pissed me off was

    (spoiler 3rd zone)

    When Bakool Ja Ja instantly turned around into a fast ally (whose trust Wuk Lamat has earned, somehow). The reveal of how he was groomed and pressured into the role was actually the first time the MSQ made me feel anything at all, it was genuinely pretty sad and messed up to learn. And yet my WoL has nothing but harsh words for him. Meanwhile, Wuk Lamat, saint that she is, acts forgiving. Because of course she does, only she can be kind and good.

    Never before has the WoL felt so railroaded. I'm starting to dislike my own character.
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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post

    Another thing that pissed me off was

    (spoiler 3rd zone)

    When Bakool Ja Ja instantly turned around into a fast ally (whose trust Wuk Lamat has earned, somehow). The reveal of how he was groomed and pressured into the role was actually the first time the MSQ made me feel anything at all, it was genuinely pretty sad and messed up to learn. And yet my WoL has nothing but harsh words for him. Meanwhile, Wuk Lamat, saint that she is, acts forgiving. Because of course she does, only she can be kind and good.

    Never before has the WoL felt so railroaded. I'm starting to dislike my own character.
    So much this, haha!

    I couldn't believe that I actually felt more empathy and sympathy for
    Bakool Ja Ja and his struggles, who I had despised before because he was so cartoonish, than I had ever felt for Wuk up to this point. I'm glad they did give him an actual backstory but if 20 minutes of story can make you like the ex-bully more than your MC, that you have tried to establish for hours, then your writing is doing something wrong.


    The first time where I think they did a really good job with Wuk was when (spoiler after rite of succession)
    her father died and she cried and griefed over his corpse. This really made me feel for her. But it shouldn't have taken this long and they also weren't really able to recreate those feelings again afterwards. (Though I haven't finished the story yet.)
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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post

    When Bakool Ja Ja instantly turned around into a fast ally (whose trust Wuk Lamat has earned, somehow). The reveal of how he was groomed and pressured into the role was actually the first time the MSQ made me feel anything at all, it was genuinely pretty sad and messed up to learn. And yet my WoL has nothing but harsh words for him. Meanwhile, Wuk Lamat, saint that she is, acts forgiving. Because of course she does, only she can be kind and good.

    Never before has the WoL felt so railroaded. I'm starting to dislike my own character.
    This character is probably among the top ten writing in Dawn Trail, if you count the ranking from bottom up. The art of subtle writing is it's opaque and clever enough that it can hide the real truth from the reader. But in hindsight, the readers should be able to go back and piece together the vague hints and see that the conclusion still make sense. This character has nothing of the sort, and the 180 degree is just a complete arse-pull. The attempt is so fake and force that it make it hard for me to believe whoever behind it is a professional writer doing it for a living.
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